I disagree. The holocaust is documented as the worse genocide in history by several metrics. Any other mass killing should be juxtaposed to it (and others) to see the similarities and differences. If a nation begins to kill people under the same ideology that birthed the holocaust ( or any other genocide) it should be documented, called out and prevented from doing so, so we don’t get another holocaust or holodomor or Cambodian genocide or Rwandan genocide… If we hold the holocaust as something unique and separate, we make the mistake that it can not happen again.
Europeans in Australia spent about 150 years trying to wipe outs it’s indigenous population. ~84% population decline. Systematic destruction of culture. Policies of displacement, family destruction and to breed them out. This was not the holocaust. But the similarities are there.
We should absolutely be looking at what is happening in Palestine/Israel to see if the same rationale used for the Holocaust is in play.
You may juxtapose it for more or less scientific reasons but as I explained in this thread, you don’t juxtapose it by comparing the holocaust and Gaza in a political debate. I said nothing about we shouldn’t document/prevent massacres or stuff. The current one isn’t under the same ideology as holocaust and doesn’t have to, to despise it.
Juxtapose means to put things side by side to compare them.
I said document it, call it out and prevent it. That’s not for scientific reasons, its very much political. How many more Gazans need to be killed before it’s enough like the holocaust for someone to do something to stop it? We compare these things because they look similar. Not to trivialise, but to understand.
As I repeatedly said: It doesn’t have to be “a holocaust” nor a genocide to despise it. Please just read what I pointed out in this posts’s comment section .
I have, you are missing the point. You seem to be suggesting that what is happening in Gaza is dispicable but can’t be labelled as a “holocaust” nor, arguably, a “genocide”. So this is a semantic argument based on your personal perception of the word holocaust and genocide. Do you have a more appropriate word for what is happening in Gaza? Unfortunately “Gazans are being treated despicably” probably doesn’t capture the whole 50000+ people dead and more dying due to military strikes, starvation and lack of clean water and medical care. See the funny thing with English is that when we don’t have a word for something we borrow one, or use one that describes a similar situation… But, yeah the important thing is that no body should compare this documented genocide with any other genocide especially not the worst one ever documented in detail.
I disagree. The holocaust is documented as the worse genocide in history by several metrics. Any other mass killing should be juxtaposed to it (and others) to see the similarities and differences. If a nation begins to kill people under the same ideology that birthed the holocaust ( or any other genocide) it should be documented, called out and prevented from doing so, so we don’t get another holocaust or holodomor or Cambodian genocide or Rwandan genocide… If we hold the holocaust as something unique and separate, we make the mistake that it can not happen again. Europeans in Australia spent about 150 years trying to wipe outs it’s indigenous population. ~84% population decline. Systematic destruction of culture. Policies of displacement, family destruction and to breed them out. This was not the holocaust. But the similarities are there. We should absolutely be looking at what is happening in Palestine/Israel to see if the same rationale used for the Holocaust is in play.
You may juxtapose it for more or less scientific reasons but as I explained in this thread, you don’t juxtapose it by comparing the holocaust and Gaza in a political debate. I said nothing about we shouldn’t document/prevent massacres or stuff. The current one isn’t under the same ideology as holocaust and doesn’t have to, to despise it.
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Juxtapose means to put things side by side to compare them. I said document it, call it out and prevent it. That’s not for scientific reasons, its very much political. How many more Gazans need to be killed before it’s enough like the holocaust for someone to do something to stop it? We compare these things because they look similar. Not to trivialise, but to understand.
As I repeatedly said: It doesn’t have to be “a holocaust” nor a genocide to despise it. Please just read what I pointed out in this posts’s comment section .
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I have, you are missing the point. You seem to be suggesting that what is happening in Gaza is dispicable but can’t be labelled as a “holocaust” nor, arguably, a “genocide”. So this is a semantic argument based on your personal perception of the word holocaust and genocide. Do you have a more appropriate word for what is happening in Gaza? Unfortunately “Gazans are being treated despicably” probably doesn’t capture the whole 50000+ people dead and more dying due to military strikes, starvation and lack of clean water and medical care. See the funny thing with English is that when we don’t have a word for something we borrow one, or use one that describes a similar situation… But, yeah the important thing is that no body should compare this documented genocide with any other genocide especially not the worst one ever documented in detail.