• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    AI image generation is theft.

    The pictures stolen to train it that it then uses as refrence to shit out Frankensteins of other people’s art were stolen without the consent of the original artists.

    It’s theft, that’s been proven.

    It’s not creative, it should be illegal.

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      Hey look, it’s one of those pro-copyright trolls I was describing in my original comment about how the anti-AI trolls here are hypocrites for coming to an anarchist, leftist community that doesn’t support or prop up the false notion of copyright and intellectual property gatekeeping coming here to argue that a thing is bad because of copyright infringement.

      You can’t expect people here to not think you are a troll coming to a community in dbzer0, AKA the piracy instance, and trying to argue pro-copyright talking points, that’s what you’re doing here when you come and whine about art theft. Copyright is a capitalist construct, you sitting here arguing for it, or putting down violations of it is laughable petty trolling at best, and at worst it’s Anarcho-Capitalist, or just straight up pro-capitalist trolling.

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        Lern to draw lazy baby troll

        It’s not hard

        I’m sorry you don’t respect the work of real artists, but that’s not an excuse to steal.

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          Aww it’s so cute that your only attempt at a rebuttable is to assume I can’t draw, because you know that I’m right, you’re sitting here whining and preaching capitalist pro-copyright bullshit in an anarchist community. You’re the one making yourself look bad, making yourself look like a troll, coming into an anti-copyright community whining about people not respecting artists copyright, it’s really sad and pathetic. Grow the fuck up.

          Edit: Wow you have one of the worst modlog histories I’ve seen yet. That really doesn’t help your case, and only reinforces the idea that you’re a troll.

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      I don’t accept the idea of copyright in the first place. The very idea of intellectual property is absurd. Once you release an idea to the world, turning around and claiming to own that idea is akin to slavery. You’re really going to sit here and tell me if you create art, you own the neurons that formed in my head to remember it? That’s barbaric and inhumane.

      Once you make art and release it to the public, it’s as much mine as yours, and I’ll do with it whatever I want because it belongs to everyone. Ideas are a part of people, and people should be free. Anyone who claims to own another person is evil.

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        People who don’t want copyright to exist have never created art people want to buy.

        I agree it sucks that money is required for everything. But as long as we perpetuate this system it’s better to not allow theft.

        We should change copyright laws, but we do need copyright laws still.

        • People who don’t want copyright to exist have never created art people want to buy.

          I think you’ll find a lot of artists who’ve been screwed over by record labels (who commandeer your copyright), as well as indie artists who release under CreativeCommons or Public Domain who would strongly disagree with you there.

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          It doesn’t matter if people wanted to buy my photographs or not, I would never stoop so low as to charge someone for something I created. Everything I create is in the public domain, free to use not because I choose it to be, but because I cannot own it. How can you own art? Such a preposterous idea, perpetrated by weak-minded fools who debase art to be nothing more than a source of monetary gain. You disgust me by even insinuating that people would or should pay for my art.

          And for the record, I’m not saying copyright should not exist. I’m saying it does not exist. You do not own the art you create any more than I own the art I create. Your art IS my art. I will not consider any other viewpoint, because such viewpoints are born from an immoral system and are therefore wrong.

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            Sorry you choose to make these excuses to steal from others.

            I hope one day you will put in the time to learn how to do a real skill like real artists.

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              A “real” skill lmao. I would wager I’m a much better photographer than you will ever be, if I was to be so crass as to compare myself to someone else.

              But that’s another difference between you and I, I make art for myself, and everyone else just gets to enjoy it as they want. My satisfaction however isn’t dependent upon other people seeing or appreciating my art. I don’t care what other people think about it, it’s an expression of my state of mind at that moment.

              The opinion of others is of secondary concern at best.

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                If you were capable of creating your own art you wouldn’t endorse the automated theft of others art.

                Bye troll, learn to draw it’s not hard you’re just lazy and a shitty person

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                  Oh no, you don’t get to say “bye” to me. It’s you who are unwelcome, and you’ve come here to our space to simp for capitalist nonsense. If you don’t like what you’re hearing, you can leave, bootlicker.

            • Piracy is not stealing and never will be, seriously you sound exactly like those dumb anti-piracy people. If you somehow believe piracy is okay but training data isn’t that’s hypocritical and stupid.

              I don’t know why you think you’re going to get any kind of support for pro-capitalist pro-copyright bullshit here.