So, i want to give a try to usenet world.
I have the *Arr setup with torrents now, and works great, but why not experiment a bit further?
So many questions…
First of all: will i find italian contents? Or its all US/English stuff?
I got an account on NZBFind, bit thats only an indexer right? I need also to find an access provider to usenet? If so, which access provider do you recomend? I want somewhere i can test for a few weeks or a month or so before committing, so no credit card upfront.
Update: trough techradar got an offer on newshosting for 5.99/mo with 3 monts free. Paid with PayPal then cancelled the recurrent immediately (so paid 0 so far). But at the moment not yet sure i made it working in my *Arr setup properly.
- Usenet provider. I suggest if you make the jump, then Newshosting is a great option. Why: 5557 days of retention, up to 100 connections, and unlimited download (on highest plan $15/month).
Also Newshosting offers a FREE TRIAL. From there T&C - “Free Trial ends in 14 days or 30GB used, whichever comes first.” You might have to do a CC upfront, but just cancel it the next day, and run the free 2 weeks.
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Will you find Italian content. YES, there is tons of it. How do I know? Because I host a Usenet indexer/scraper, and I see everything that is scraped on my server. English, German and Italian are among the top 5 languages.
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NZBFind. That is a scraper/indexer. You still need a Usenet provider. The indexers just provide you with the NZB, you need the usenet provider (configured in NZBGet or whatever your download *arrr is) to get all the “parts” (binary posts) and assemble them together.
Just signed up for newshosting Paid like $89 for a year.
Edit: because of this comment.
Thanks!
Welcome! Thanks for also pointing out that yearly is cheaper that monthly subscription.
there are plenty of newshosting resellers that use the same exact servers that are much cheaper than $15 a month or even $10 a month. use one of the backbone maps to see all of the various ones.
i dont think any service is going to give you free weeks or a month with no strings attached. if they did everybody would use them and not pay. you can just buy 1 unlimited month of frugal usenet for 5 bucks (not a subscription) and call it good.
There are plenty that will give you a free something. It might be a week/1GB whichever is first (A good way to look around). There are a lot that give you a free day with no limit (other than number of connections).
Keep an eye on black friday deals, they are usually the best around. You may get lifetime deals on the cheap from indexers, cheap blocks/subs from server providers. It’s a steep, but rewarding learning curve. Can’t help you with Italian content though.
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Nzbgeek, nzbplanet, dognzb and Drunken Slug are the best indexers in my experience. Really only need 1 or 2 of these.
Providers are both trickier and simpler. most are just resellers and theres really only 2 backbones for the providers. There’s a diagram somewhere of all of the different providers and which backbone they come off of. I got NZB ninja a decade ago cuz it was the cheapest at the time but really any of them will do.
There’s more than 2.
Here’s a map:
Sure looks like it. Either more have spun up in the last decade or I missed that those existed. Thanks for the map.
that map is a bit out of date but also doesnt show all the sellers. this might show things better, https://whatsmyuse.net/
I don’t think you’ll find many providers that offer free trials, although I stand to be corrected. But some will accept crypto so if you don’t want to give your credit card details you could try that.
Italian content? Some, but not much. Way less that torrents.
I speak from experience.
How and why is Usenet still a thing? Damn.
Faster, encrypted, no need to seed. Yep, sure is terrible.
Ssshhhh
You forgot, Speed, Zero Day, The backbone that distributes warez weeks ahead of any shitty p2p.
What’s the point of paying for piracy?
it’s a service issue. if it was $5/month for every streaming service including music and current tv, would you pay for that service? how many hoops or hassles would you be willing to tolerate for that price point and access?
I don’t have speed issues with torrents / soulseek for that tho. Can still be encrypted.
if you’re paying for a vpn, then paying for usenet is no different.
IF YOU ARE JUST OUT THERE RAWDOGGING TORRENTS IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2023 then you are a fucking legend.
myself, i don’t pay for either, but i do use xdcc still and i use i2p which supports torrenting.
if you’re paying for a vpn, then paying for usenet is no different.
But I’m not. The only thing I’m going is requiring encrypting from all peers and using this blacklist.
Guess I’m a fucking legend 😂 😂
FUCKING LEGEND
Encryption doesn’t protect you from being identified. Encryption prevents eavesdropping unto the connection from a third party. DMCA lawyers don’t need to do that to identify you as a seeder. All they need to do is request the content from you, watch you send to them, and make a record of your ip address.
The blacklist, maybe protects you. No idea. Though it can easily be circumvented by a motivated group.
90% of my collection came from torrents, but I got tired of receiving copyright claims. (no vpn)
Switched to usenet mostly for that, but the other thing is the speed; torrents are typically 1-2mbps maybe 3 if you’re lucky and if you’re not it can take days to complete. Usenet gives me a consistent 60mbps always, limited by my write speed. If it’s not ready to watch within 20min of being requested, it’s because it couldn’t be found.
The day I switched from 17odd torrent indexers to a single usenet indexer, I triggered a mass search through radarr+sonarr and grabbed 2.3tb of media they had failed to find previously with torrents, completed downloading in under 36hrs.
torrents are typically 1-2mbps maybe 3 if you’re lucky and if you’re not it can take days to complete
That’s not my experience at all, I’m usually downloading at around 200-350Mbps (can’t do more that’s the limit of my connection) on TV shows etc.
I’ve occasionally run into higher rate torrents like that, but they were few and far between in the 7ish years I ran my media server on torrents.
Usenet though, the speed is always consistent regardless of the content.
Even so you still have to seed, meet lame ratio rules, hope that old torrents are still seeded etc.
Torrents certainly still have their place, but Usenet is just generally superior in all aspects, and for a few dollars a month the service it provides is unparalleled.
Torrents certainly still have their place, but Usenet is just generally superior in all aspects,
Yeah something payed, closed and not open is certainly better. lol
Clearly you don’t understand Usenet, it’s open, you can start your own provider and indexer if you like. Nothing stopping you.
I’d rather not, so I pay to support those who do a good job of it.
