• UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev
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    I’d argue that if it’s strict explicitness you want, python is the wrong language. if not var is a standard pattern in python. You would be making your code slower for no good reason.

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      You always want explicitness when programming. Not everyone reading your code will be deep into Python and relying on falsiness makes it harder to understand.

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        Containers being “truthy” is quite basic Python and you will find this idiom used in nearly every Python code base in my experience

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          Yeah, I’m talking less deep than that. Plenty programming beginners will be reading Python code. And personally, I’m a fulltime software engineer, but just don’t do much Python, so while I had it in the back of my mind that Python does truthiness, I would have still thought that var must be a boolean, because it’s being negated. Obviously, a different variable name might’ve given me more of a clue, but it really doesn’t reduce mental complexity when I can’t be sure what’s actually in a variable.

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            But if those beginners want to stop being beginners, then they must learn the basics of the language. It makes no more sense to demand that everyone who programs in Python caters to beginners, than it makes to demand that everyone writing in English write at a 3rd grade reading level for the sake of English language learners

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              Yeah, my stance for both of those is the same: If the complexity aids you in communicating better, then use it. But if you’re using big words where small words would do, then you’re doing a disservice to your readers.