• faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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    16 hours ago

    Okay, I’ll hear you out. What details do you need clarified to be concerned that ICE is interrupting court to arrest people?

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      I need to know if they have broke any laws by doing so. I don’t care if it’s a judge. I can’t be advocating for the trump administration follow rule of law and at the same time advocating anyone democrat leaning bending the rules to their liking. At no point has any one I consider a legal authority laid our the federal governemnts case and the judges case.

      I may very well be on OPs side but what I see is a lot of dust getting kicked up and that usually means the trump propaganda machine is ramping up. It’s looks like bait to me and it’s probably a case the federal government will easily win in the court of public opinion so I’m not going to stick my neck out when it means my credibility is on the line when discussing other, more pressing, matters like Abrego Garcia.

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        I may very well be on OPs side but what I see is a lot of dust getting kicked up and that usually means the trump propaganda machine is ramping up.

        Alright, I will give you far more good faith than you’ve shown me.

        You’re not really giving anyone a lot to work with in this thread, but if you’re done jerking your own chain about us being… what? Slaves to the narrative?

        This is just extremely cyclical and unproductive poochie. Your reasoning for questioning the public outcry against the FBI arresting a judge… is because people being upset usually means this administration wants them to be upset?

        … And not because they may have - yet again - crossed a line that would upset reasonable people?

        All of the following is from the FBI’s side of the story.

        A man appeared at court for legal proceedings related to charges of domestic violence. His alleged victim(s) - that is, the people accusing him of the crime - were also present. (This would later be a shocking revelation by the Attorney General as if it was some unusual and dangerous situation)

        ICE arrive without proper legal documentation to compel the judge to allow them into her courtroom. They demand to arrest her defendant. She tells them they don’t have the right warrant, and to talk to the Chief Judge. While they do so, witnesses allege she instructs the defendant to leave through the “jury door”, or the door at the back of the courtroom.

        The agents realize, and chase the man outside the building and arrest him. The FBI later arrests the judge for obstruction of justice and claims she “misdirected” the agents.

        All of that is how the administration themselves have described the story, and I invite you to explain to me why I shouldn’t be furious. Why you think we should be upset about Kilmar instead when the two situations are obviously intrinsically linked.

        They are trying to make judges afraid of interfering so that they can keep kidnapping and concentrating people like Kilmar Abrego Garcia. This woman was trying to stop them from making another man disappear.

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        14 hours ago

        I need to know if they have broke any laws by doing so.

        Yes? The whole point is that they had the wrong paperwork and were not legally allowed to arrest the guy whose case the judge was presiding over.