• JFedererJ@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    This basically happened to Marcelo. Completely innocent move but with horrible results. It’s a red.

  • JealousMeringue6674@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    It’s a red card offence by the rules, but there is literally nothing he could’ve done differently, just extremely unfortunate outcome. It’s not even a dangerous play, it’s him planting his foot down as he is shielding the ball, the play itself is made 100 times a game.

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      11 months ago

      It’s more about being reckless than intent isn’t it? You can speed through a busy street with no intention of harming people but you’re nevertheless being reckless and disregarding the risk if that makes any sense.

      Rashford had no right lifting his foot high to cover the space and it’s a red all day long imo.

  • ASeatedLion@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Not a man u fan - was this on field or reviewed? Because its clear he wasn’t even looking at the player so it’s not intentional. He has possession of the ball too. Yes it’s bad but it seems harsh a straight red.

  • pacoLL3@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I dislike ManU but i absolutely despise red card decisions like these.

    Everyone and their mother knows this was utterly unintentional.

    Is this really what a red card should be about? Technicalities?

    For me it should be the exact opposite: A red is when people deliberatly try to injure, or provoke injuries.

    None of that happened here.

    And this is comming from a guy liking Kopenhagen, Liverpool and City.

    • XxAbsurdumxX@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Intent isn’t, and has not been for a very long time, a requirement for a red. It can increase the seriousness of the challenge, but intent is in no way required for a red. The reason why is obvious: how do you prove intent? The most important factor for the refs is to consider wether the player is acting reckless and/or endangering his opponent. Rashford isn’t being reckless here, but planting your studs in your opponents ankle is dangerous regardless of wether he intended to do it or not.

      I think its harsh, but claiming it is BS because he didn’t intend to do it just shows a complete misunderstanding of the rules.

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    11 months ago

    That’s so unlucky. I don’t think it should be a red, it’s just an unfortunate accident. Not reckless or dangerous imo

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      11 months ago

      Reckless, no. Dangerous, absolutely. I think the red is harsh, but planting your studs in your opponents ankle is dangerous regardless of wether you intended to do it or not

  • 08TangoDown08@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I feel like the meaning of a “red card” is just completely different now than it was before. Intent doesn’t matter at all anymore, instead if the tackle looks bad and might have caused an injury, it’s a red.

    It just overlooks the fact that this is a contact sport. There’s no way to play it that completely removes the risk of injury.

  • dontcarenotbothered@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Honestly, as funny as it is to watch United on the wrong end of it, VAR has got to go. It’s just embarrassing how many massive game changing decisions it’s responsible for ever single week.

  • Rainfall7711@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    The reason why you know this is a stupid red is if this exact contact didn’t happen and the other player arrived half a second later, no one would even suggest Rashford had done something dangerous.

    It’s just more absolute nonsense refereeing based on the outcome of a situation instead of looking at it critically.