• RobbieFowler9@alien.topBEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Lots of people talking about it not being a handball at all.

    The ball does hit his chest first but that only applies for deflections not deliberate attempts to control the ball. He’s trying to control it with his chest and takes a bad touch. A bad touch doesn’t negate handball.

  • sunken_grade@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    it’s crazy that we can’t go a single day without controversial refereeing decisions being made

  • SomeRandomRealtor@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    The level of officiating these last few months have gotten me to the point where I almost feel I need to take a break from watching the sport. it’s getting unbearable, watching referees completely deciding the outcome of matches. I hate the lack of consistency and it’s somehow more chaotic with tools designed to make it easier to be decisive.

  • official_bagel@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    This made me realize I don’t know what constitutes the changing of a phase of play.

    Does headed clearance like that constitute a new phase of play even if it doesn’t leave the box and goes straight to an opposing player? Or does a team need to have actual possession of the ball?

  • punkdrummer22@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Clear handball but VAR shouldn’t be going back that far to call that.

    If VAR wants to be used there have the VAR call it down right away

  • Chen_96@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I honestly don’t see what people are moaning about, or rather, I don’t understand how they don’t know the rules by now.

    I remember being annoyed when VAR was first introduced and goals were getting disallowed for fouls that occurred after a clearance or deflection in a play. I learned that it’s not a new passage of play after clearances or deflections, the same as offsides.

    The other matter is the handball, VAR has been clear since it was first introduced. Any handball by the attacker, no matter the context, in the play that leads to a goal gets called back as a foul, always.

    It’s like we went back in time a few years ago when VAR was introduced. These complains happened all the time then but they slowed down as it was mostly consistent with it and everyone learned the rules, but apparently not.

  • Kensei01@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    These are the type of decisions that the on-field ref has to call on the spot or ignore.

    No one would complain if the ref made a call here and stuck to it.

  • GrumpyOldFart74@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    This is a much better clip than the other one that was posted.

    Seeing all that takes it from “harsh handball” to wtaf?! Not the biggest fan of Liverpool, but that’s just stupid.

  • stumpyDgunner@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I think it’s fine to pull something back after the play extends if the situation deserves it. This isn’t one of those, super borderline

  • spacedude444@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    This was soo far back

    They cleared the ball

    The ball touched about 7 players before it was in the net

    Its not a handball

    we played horrible but this just takes the fun out of the sport, our only 2 loses in the last 26 games were this and spurs game where both perfectly fine goals got disallowed

  • Spreeg@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    Hits top part of sleeve.

    Other phases of play between it and goal.

    Definitely not clear and obvious.

    Literallly points to spot and awards the goal.

    Don’t follow this one at al