So it looks like Trump has read the fascist playbook or something. I’m not surprised. I am concerned.

Edit: After thinking about it, I guess I am surprised that he can read.

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    And nearly half of the voters in the US think, “yeah that’s who I want leading my country.” This includes half of my extended family (the math at least checks out).

    I will never understand the sheer lack of independent and critical thinking in the US. I get that the underfunded education system, the complete takeover of editorial news outlets which have never put forth actual news, and the inability for most people to shut up long enough to listen to reason, are just a very small number of examples of why America is in the state that it is; but at the end of the day, can’t people at least see evil when it’s speaking evil things to them? Is this what they truly want — a dictator who has used them, who doesn’t represent them at all, and who will do everything possible to rip apart the bonds of democracy?

    Why are people so easily brainwashed?

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      Why are people so easily brainwashed?

      Lack of education. If your people had learned about Hitler in school (how he came to power and not just how the glorious allies under AMERICAN leadership won the war), they would have recognized the playbook of the Republicans and Trump especially long ago.

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      The most recent On The Media podcast has a section about this (Trump reporting and why people don’t get it that he’s stupid, crazy AND evil) that I feel like didn’t go far enough. They have a guest talking who literally says “The journalists aren’t doing their job, to inform the public.” I wanted to respond “NO, they ARE doing their job. Their job isn’t to inform the public, it’s to make $$$ by creating content that maximizes consumer engagement, while pushing narratives that appeal to their CEOs and shareholders. They’re doing EXACTLY their job. THAT’S the problem.”

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        So what’s the solution to this? Publicly funding journalism nearly no-strings attached so that they have guaranteed income and can better focus on actual news?

        But then that creates a conflict in interest when the story involves the funder.

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          But then that creates a conflict in interest when the story involves the funder.

          It might create that potential, but if done properly, there can be independence.

          In Canada, the CBC regularly reports on things that show the government of the day in a negative light.

          Same with the BBC in the UK.

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      Research Hitler’s rise to power and also the rise of fascism generally. Also look up “boiled frog”

      Also maybe read this TL;DR: by GPT. I think the big thing is people feel powerless to stop him. Also nobody wants him to be a martyr. There are plenty others, some worse, that would take his place.

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      Ask a 1930s German adult. Fear. Whether it be a crashing economy, immigration, whatever. If you can get the fear hooks in them, you can absolutely get people to vote against their interests.

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        That seems so obvious, but as someone not inclined to succumb to fear, it’s never on my mind as a motivator.

        Thank you for that insightful thought. I appreciate your mindfulness of that. I suppose it seems so easy for me to be able to look in from the outside and bang on the windows screaming at the top of my lungs about the danger of this narcissistic wannabe Hitler, but only to find out just how soundproof the house is on the inside in such a fog of fear and lies.

        It’s a shame that millions of people are unable to divorce their fear from their cognition and ambition. I can only hope they wisen up at some point.

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    It’s scary how he isn’t even subtle about it either. Even less subtle than his previous plans to overthrow the government (and I’m in Australia, and it wasn’t even subtle with the limited US political media here)

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      It’s a bit concerning as an Australian since we’re cosying right up to America with this AUKUS BS that Labor is continuing (I understand why, but I don’t agree).

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        Yeah… Honestly, I get the AUKUS thing, but I really wish we weren’t wasting so much money on Military.

        Honestly though, as of late, I’ve been voting greens…

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    Last time he was going to let us all die from covid.
    This time he is actively going to hunt and kill us all.
    Welcome to squid games bitches!!

    (p.s. this orange kunt will never be president again)

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      (p.s. this orange kunt will never be president again)

      I sincerely hope and wish you are correct. But last I heard he was ahead in the polls. 😱

      The democrats really should have gone with a new face rather than Biden round 2.

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        All the “news” and “polls” are so full of it. When we are close to election time, we will have a better measure. Polls this far away are just conjecture.

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          Last three election cycles were predicted to be red waves that never materialized. Get out and vote.

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        Put AOC up there tomorrow and she will win.

        Keep Biden up there and he will lose.

        Just shows how the voice and the vote of the people doesn’t matter.

        The Party does what The Party does.

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    Maybe we should follow Trump’s advice from 2016 and explore the second amendment option.

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    Biden is funding genocide and is working in creating mechanisms that allow him to do so behind closed doors.

    He has also made a few limp wristed pushes for things he has not delivered on, but if he is renewed, he has said he wants to TRY to do some of the things he promised some more.

    To repeat, Biden funding of the genocide of Palestine sailed through with massive success.

    Democrats need to find something better to offer. Fast.

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      And you’re going to turn to the GOP, who is willing to deport you to the ME even if you are a natural born American? Good luck with that.

      And keep in mind, the GOP position on the Hamas terrorist attacks is to give Israel all the arms and funding they want.

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      Even if you’re pro-religion, voting blue is the better choice. Only blind mammonites and hate-filled egotists can justify voting republican.

      Also, the way Trump’s base is all whipped up, not voting at all is nearly equivalent to voting for him.

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      decisions that probably make your life 2% worse

      You know, unless you’re someone in Gaza whose life Biden’s military aid package to Israel will end, but hey, they’re just brown people!

      Voting blue instead of abstaining or voting 3rd party? Sure, but let’s not downplay how bad the Blue Team is. By voting for them, we are being complicit in the crimes of the Democrats in order to stave off worse crimes, but are still complicit in the murder and genocide nonetheless.

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        Do you honestly think the Republicans wouldn’t support Israel?

        And a vote for 3rd parties is a vote for Republicans.

        And Israel would be attacking Palestine even without US support, given Hamas is still going to be attacking them.

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          Do you honestly think the Republicans wouldn’t support Israel?

          What in my comment gave you that impression? Do you think that just because both parties would do it absolves you from being complicit in it?

          And a vote for 3rd parties is a vote for Republicans.

          So is a vote for Democrats, since they’re doing nothing to actually stop Republicans. The 2 party system is built so that control switches between the 2 parties. One party will never hold it indefinitely.

          And Israel would be attacking Palestine even without US support

          So your argument is that we may as well just go along with the genocide since it will happen with or without us?

          This is peak Centrism. “I don’t agree with the genocide, but I’ll go along with it since I’ve got nothing better to do.”

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            Not everyone agrees it’s a genocide.

            If Israel wanted they have the weapons and ability to raze Gaza to the ground and kill everyone in it in a matter of weeks. But they haven’t done that.

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              “If you do the genocide slow, it’s not really a genocide! Not everyone agrees that killing thousands of children of one particular ethnicity is a genocide, anyways. They should be thankful they’re not all dead already, because if Israel wanted them to be, they could do it. Really, only killing this many makes Israel the good guys here!”

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                So you just want Israel to let Hamas attack and kill them then? Because Hamas attacks from populated areas, any counter attacks will result in civilian casualties.

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                  Holy false dichotomies, Batman!

                  “In order to prevent the genocide, Israel must commit the genocide!” BIG BRAIN!

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    Bill Burr in the background! Wonder when his wife flipped off Trump? I hope she doesn’t apologize, I’ll be disappointed.

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    Is there supposed to be an article attached to this? All I’m getting is an image. I mean, I know trump has been threatening a lot of stuff, but I was curious if there were any specific examples of what he was planning or if this was just a general statement.

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          I miss little details like that all the time. In the article, the photo is captioned. I didn’t read the caption till someone mentioned it looked like burr was there. I love the look on his face.