- cross-posted to:
- imageai@sh.itjust.works
- cross-posted to:
- imageai@sh.itjust.works
cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/post/6888554
Inspired by: “UK and France abandon plans to recognise Palestinian state at conference”
cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/post/6888554
Inspired by: “UK and France abandon plans to recognise Palestinian state at conference”
Then it should be open to criticism. The fact that criticism of it is being removed makes me not see it as art at all, frankly.
Your comment wasn’t removed for being criticism, it was removed for being reactionary. You’ve had it explained to you that this sentiment is considered reactionary here and thus isn’t allowed. We don’t allow other forms of liberal apologia either, even if they’re framed as “criticism” or “just asking questions”.
“Reactionary liberal apologia” is when you care about artists and the environment, apparently.
Nice strawman argument. Really showing which side of the fence you sit on.
are you fucking dense? like i seriously cannot tell if you’re serious or shitposting, and like, i’m being fr here i’m genuinely not sure and i’m not trying to be any more of a dick than some friendly ribbing might entail. like i don’t have any ill feelings for you but this just gets super frustrating after having this conversation so many times with so many people who seem utterly set on unfounded debate over rational dialectic.
it is open to criticism. lmfao. all you people fucking do is criticize it, endlessly, on social media.
can you not just let us have our own tiny fucking corner of the internet and leave us alone or is it really that much of a vendetta for you?
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That’s your prerogative, but I don’t think this hill is worth dying on. A Marxist Perspective On AI
Great post, thanks for sharing.
db0 is a leftist instance. we’re all anarchists for fucks sake, very clearly. don’t be dense, seriously.
just because you are ignorant does not mean we all must be. it doesn’t make one a fascist techbro to merely enjoy computer science and fucking math. sorry. i was unaware this was an anti-intellectual, anti-rationalist society.
either way i wish you well, i’m not trying to sling shit or anything. i just genuinely think your reactionary stance on AI, as well as the general societal sentiment, is grossly ignorant to the point of abandoning reason. it is upsetting. any number of db0 members could sit here slinging rote facts at you showing they’re not just “techbros,” there is a real and objective basis for their interest in machine learning; but you probably wouldn’t even bother considering or glancing at any of it because you’ve already decided your opinion on a topic you clearly are quite uninformed on the technical details of.
it seems like everyone who is anti-AI is just deadset on MAGA-esc fucking mental gymnastics. i’m honestly not convinced a large amount of anti-AI sentiment isn’t pushed by Chinese/Russian bots trying to compensate for their absolutely massive disadvantage to the United States in the arms race currently going on over machine learning and artificial intelligence technologies. the US accounts for like, anywhere from 50-70% of all global compute resources depending on who you ask. we have sources demonstrating the MAGA people and their stupidity/echo-chambering was definitively spurred by similar psychological cyber-warfare. if you can’t beat 'em, make their people immune to truth & reason.
Firstly, there aren’t Chinese/Russian bots on Lemmy, and secondly, you’re wildly underestimating China’s current standing and its velocity in machine learning & AI.
Never said there were, wasn’t a part of my original argument. I personally disagree with you and think that’s a naive take, but even if I didn’t, it doesn’t mean that there definitely aren’t such botnets active on every major social media platform; massively influencing public opinion and thus discourse on Lemmy and all other social media, even if indirectly. If you’re willing to object to the mere existence of large state-run bot farms at this point in 2025 then I have a bridge to sell you.
This is a more fair argument but I don’t think it’s particularly relevant.
Fact of the matter is that the large majority of the world’s computer and internet infrastructure is owned and maintained by American interests. If you don’t understand how that matters in this context then I think you are egregiously uninformed regarding machine learning and how this burgeoning sector of the economy actually works. Meaning, you probably shouldn’t be making such declarative statements on your opinion about it if that is the case.
China is the only other nation on Earth that might have a fighting chance against the US in an AI arms race, but, they’re still massively disadvantaged from an empirical point of view. Their only advantage over Americans is that the Chinese youth are all massively supportive of AI and AI infrastructure. China doesn’t have a large anti-AI movement due to a lot of factors but it mostly seems that in a collectivized culture there are less premonitions over things like genAI being “theft,” because ideas like the traditional Western conception of intellectual property are not common place. Whether or not this will be enough to overcome the sheer infrastructure advantage Americans have is yet to be seen. We’ll have to see how these tariffs, manufacturing, new infrastructure, and other facets of the economy actually shake out in these coming years. This stuff doesn’t exist in a vacuum, decisions made today are going to determine who “wins” tomorrow. China is certainly capable of building the infrastructure but there is still a lot of uncertainty surrounding the global economy, especially when it comes to things like fabs. Only time will tell.