• Jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
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    1 year ago

    I couldn’t read the whole article because of the paywall but I had the feeling from the beginning that Germany because of his historical guilt throws all considerations that Israel might be doing something wrong over board and suppresses every voice which try to point that out, even the moderate voices.

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      1 year ago

      Don’t think for a moment that the US or any country is safe from stifling free speech under the guise of antisemitism. The ADL and other Zionist organizations will do everything in their power to enact the same laws here in the US. When you outlaw a phrase calling for equality and dignity for all people, don’t be surprised when you get fascism.

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      1 year ago

      People are critical of Israel here, too.

      When Netanjahu pushed for his justice reform there were a lot of articles pointing that out. Very regularly people spoke up against the settlers-movement.

      Israel for sure is not a white knight in this conflict but given that it’s a war that Hamas clearly started in the worst possible way and that Hamas is misusing their civilians as shields to produce public outcry when those people they hold hostage around their command centers die it’s hard to see how while still shitty in the big picture Israel is clearly in the right in this specific war right now.

      Let’s hope that the Israeli people kick out Netanjahu asap (since they still can other than the people in Gaza that have no chance to kick out Hamas without outside intervention) and that there is a way to find a peaceful 2 state solution - but saying stuff like the statement that was banned won’t help with peace either as it’s just a wish to flip the war on the other side and genocide all the Jews from Israel.

      Fueling hate against a group of people like this is not protected by freedom of speech in Germany in general. If someone repeated that statement of the Israeli minister about flattening Gaza with an atomic bomb in Germany that probably would also be illegal. This now is just making it clear where the line that’s always been there is in this conflict.

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        1 year ago

        and that there is a way to find a peaceful 2 state solution

        I doubt it, the Israeli government and the settlers have been working relentlessly to prevent this from happening to a point where this is not possible anymore. The settlements are so interwoven with Palestinian territories that it would be political suicide for any Israeli government who would tell the settlers to leave their homes, universities, roads and all the infrastructure behind for the Palestinians to take over. And this has been the goal from the start.

        Also Hamas has been a asset to the Israeli government since the beginning to prevent a Palestinian state from happening: https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ I doubt once they get rid of Hamas they will suddenly change direction, they will double down on it.