Anakin was shown defying the Council’s orders to go save Obi-Wan in AOTC. Then in ROTS he pushes back on Palpatine to again save Obi-Wan when the ship is going down.
I’m curious what kind of actions you would have shown or why that dialogue is cringey?
George Lucas isn’t good with dialogue, and the prequels definitely suffer from some subpar dialogue (any of the dialogue between Anakin and Padme for example).
It’s also perfectly clear Anakin and Obi-Wan had a close relationship, look how devastated Obi-Wan is when Anakin turns to the dark side.
Their relationship is even referenced in the original trilogy as being close. Not sure where the other poster is getting his ideas from.
I agree that a lot of the dialogue is bad. I don’t think this is a good example though. Quite the opposite, it’s a great scene. Anakin apologizes sincerely, effectively conveys his emotions and why he’s feeling the way he is, then both men tell each other how much they value their friendship. It’s some great emotional maturity and honesty.
I think we could use more dialogue like this in movies and the real world, maybe we don’t have enough of it and that’s why it comes off as “cringey” to some.
That can also be explained by loyalty towards a fellow soldier and master. But the movie characters just don’t feel like friends on-screen. They have no chemistry. And they complain about behind each other’s backs a lot.
I’m not a writer or can provide an easy fix, but everytime I see Obi-Wan say “And he was good friend” in New Hope, I always think back at the prequels and think … “really?”.
I mean, I’ve had falling outs with people that I once conidered friends … and they didn’t even mass murder a bunch of kids.
That’s really where the core problem is, I think. Anakin doesn’t really have much of an ark. He was always kind of frustrated and angry and basically had one foot in the door to the darkside from the start of ep2. Obi-Wan seems emotionally tone deaf for not realising sooner Anakin was a bad apple … even though council literally told him they sense “grave danger” in him. But I guess he promised.
Anakin was shown defying the Council’s orders to go save Obi-Wan in AOTC. Then in ROTS he pushes back on Palpatine to again save Obi-Wan when the ship is going down.
I’m curious what kind of actions you would have shown or why that dialogue is cringey?
George Lucas isn’t good with dialogue, and the prequels definitely suffer from some subpar dialogue (any of the dialogue between Anakin and Padme for example).
It’s also perfectly clear Anakin and Obi-Wan had a close relationship, look how devastated Obi-Wan is when Anakin turns to the dark side.
Their relationship is even referenced in the original trilogy as being close. Not sure where the other poster is getting his ideas from.
I agree that a lot of the dialogue is bad. I don’t think this is a good example though. Quite the opposite, it’s a great scene. Anakin apologizes sincerely, effectively conveys his emotions and why he’s feeling the way he is, then both men tell each other how much they value their friendship. It’s some great emotional maturity and honesty.
I think we could use more dialogue like this in movies and the real world, maybe we don’t have enough of it and that’s why it comes off as “cringey” to some.
That can also be explained by loyalty towards a fellow soldier and master. But the movie characters just don’t feel like friends on-screen. They have no chemistry. And they complain about behind each other’s backs a lot.
I’m not a writer or can provide an easy fix, but everytime I see Obi-Wan say “And he was good friend” in New Hope, I always think back at the prequels and think … “really?”.
I mean, I’ve had falling outs with people that I once conidered friends … and they didn’t even mass murder a bunch of kids.
That’s really where the core problem is, I think. Anakin doesn’t really have much of an ark. He was always kind of frustrated and angry and basically had one foot in the door to the darkside from the start of ep2. Obi-Wan seems emotionally tone deaf for not realising sooner Anakin was a bad apple … even though council literally told him they sense “grave danger” in him. But I guess he promised.