What's as troubling as the firing of Ken Dorsey and the organizational debacle of Monday night was Josh Allen's familiar refrain, a level of fire that seems to be dimming as the losses and mistakes pile up.
It’s not the 13 second game (even though our game last year showed they didn’t learn from it before half time), they simply went all in last season to win a Super Bowl and for numerous reasons mostly unfortunate, tragic even, it didn’t work out. What the 2023 Bills are is what happens when you go all in and it doesn’t pay off. Paid off for the Bucs, paid off for the Rams, it’s the Naked Man of the NFL.
As long as they have Josh Allen, they’ll be fine as a franchise, for this current team it might just not have meant to be.
I’d say so, yeah. This wasn’t a team that needed to make a number of big signings or trades, but the Miller contract and Diggs extension have definitely put them in a position where they don’t really have a whole lot of wiggle room without having to lose a number of big names on the defense in FA this coming offseason. The Knox contract, as big of a fan of his as I am, isn’t really paying off either.
Their cap situation was very much designed around winning a Super Bowl in 22 or 23 at the expense of the next few years.
At least for a lot of Bills fans, the not learning is the biggest issue. 13 seconds is a great example because we let up an end of half field goal in 12 (!!!) seconds the very next time we played you guys. But it’s way more than that- we’re still relying on retread players and aging vets. Poyer and Hyde were all pros two years ago but Poyer was in and out of the lineup last year and Hyde was gone after week 2 so who do they move on to? No one, and now they’re both in and out. Gabe Davis is the biggest winner of 13 seconds, but he’s flat out not good and we’ve done nothing to challenge him for WR2. We brought back Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips who were here before, we didn’t want to pay, and then came back after they didn’t play up to the contracts they were given, but surely they’ll be better than they were when we let them walk. We finally had some success on offense going up tempo against the Buccaneers, then abandoned it and struggled against the Bengals (McDermott on why we went away from it: “I’m not really sure”), and still stayed away against the Broncos. Dorsey’s scheme was basic last year and it didn’t improve this year and it’s the same problems. Diggs not being involved enough, 2nd and long shotgun runs, etc. The offense even started to stall out the same time last season. The first several years under McDermott you could see his growth as a coach, but over the last couple it’s been the same thing every season, the same answers after bad games, the same mistakes every time, and the team seems less invested and more disinterested than I’ve ever seen them. Josh Allen’s turnovers are a problem, but what worries me more is he just seems apathetic, that comes back to coaching too. People were saying McDermott couldn’t get over the hump after 13 seconds, but I didn’t really believe that until he just totally stopped growing as a coach since then. Unfortunately, I think it’s time to move on
It’s not the 13 second game (even though our game last year showed they didn’t learn from it before half time), they simply went all in last season to win a Super Bowl and for numerous reasons mostly unfortunate, tragic even, it didn’t work out. What the 2023 Bills are is what happens when you go all in and it doesn’t pay off. Paid off for the Bucs, paid off for the Rams, it’s the Naked Man of the NFL.
As long as they have Josh Allen, they’ll be fine as a franchise, for this current team it might just not have meant to be.
They went all in? All I remember is the Von Miller signing. What other stuff did they do? It was it mostly cap stuff?
I’d say so, yeah. This wasn’t a team that needed to make a number of big signings or trades, but the Miller contract and Diggs extension have definitely put them in a position where they don’t really have a whole lot of wiggle room without having to lose a number of big names on the defense in FA this coming offseason. The Knox contract, as big of a fan of his as I am, isn’t really paying off either.
Their cap situation was very much designed around winning a Super Bowl in 22 or 23 at the expense of the next few years.
I would also say it’s the fact 3 of our pro bowlers on defense are out for the season in very key positions
Works 2 out of 3 times guaranteed
60% of the time it works 100% of the time.
Or us Bills fans say: It works every time unless you’re the Bills.
“The Naked Man of the NFL” is too damn good. Easily one of my favorite episodes. Takes a little bit of the sting out of being the 1/3 lol.
What’s it in reference to
How I Met Your Mother https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1256191/
Lol they lost half their defense to injury and have the worst starting drive position because of it.
At least for a lot of Bills fans, the not learning is the biggest issue. 13 seconds is a great example because we let up an end of half field goal in 12 (!!!) seconds the very next time we played you guys. But it’s way more than that- we’re still relying on retread players and aging vets. Poyer and Hyde were all pros two years ago but Poyer was in and out of the lineup last year and Hyde was gone after week 2 so who do they move on to? No one, and now they’re both in and out. Gabe Davis is the biggest winner of 13 seconds, but he’s flat out not good and we’ve done nothing to challenge him for WR2. We brought back Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips who were here before, we didn’t want to pay, and then came back after they didn’t play up to the contracts they were given, but surely they’ll be better than they were when we let them walk. We finally had some success on offense going up tempo against the Buccaneers, then abandoned it and struggled against the Bengals (McDermott on why we went away from it: “I’m not really sure”), and still stayed away against the Broncos. Dorsey’s scheme was basic last year and it didn’t improve this year and it’s the same problems. Diggs not being involved enough, 2nd and long shotgun runs, etc. The offense even started to stall out the same time last season. The first several years under McDermott you could see his growth as a coach, but over the last couple it’s been the same thing every season, the same answers after bad games, the same mistakes every time, and the team seems less invested and more disinterested than I’ve ever seen them. Josh Allen’s turnovers are a problem, but what worries me more is he just seems apathetic, that comes back to coaching too. People were saying McDermott couldn’t get over the hump after 13 seconds, but I didn’t really believe that until he just totally stopped growing as a coach since then. Unfortunately, I think it’s time to move on