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      Yeah, did you read the examples you gave?

      Your literal only modern example is a case in Fiji, an island with a population the size of Nashville, Tennessee, and army of 6,500 people.

      And the coup was only successful because the special forces unit of the army that was run by a former SAS commander joined the coup and armed them.

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        IRA does not count? Really? The dropping of small arms for resistance fighters? Come on, you are getting as selective as you are wrong.

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          You’re referring to the Provisional IRA?

          Tell us again how successful they were in their goals of ending British rule in Northern Ireland.

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            Personal firearms have basically never been used to resist government tyranny in the US or entire rest of the developed world in modern times.

            Please show us where success was required in the request?

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              Oh so you’re advocating for resisting in unproductive ways that don’t accomplish your goals? Glad to get that out in the open.

              Also, the Provisional IRA primarily used military weapons leftover from WW2, modern ones to the era smuggled in from Libya, and homemade IEDs, so not a particularly relevant example.

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                All those military rifles are legal to own in most nations with gun ownership. It is a very relevant example. Or are you advocating now that this only counts if the firearms are side by side shotguns and hunting rifles?

                You are very much moving goalposts here and trying to put words and arguments I did not make in my mouth. Its not complicated, your point was no firearms where used to resist a tyrannical government in modern times, a point so completely incorrect as to be laughable.

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                  No, literally no goal posts have ever been moved.

                  The point was and always has been, that widespread availability of guns does not effectively resist tyranny in the modern era, but does kill numerous people needlessly.

                  All you have shown, is a couple random examples of guns being used to take ineffective pot shots at governments that ultimately crush them.

                  You have provided literally not a single example of people successfully using personal firearms to resist government oppression, let alone at a scale that would justify the thousands and thousands and thousands of needless deaths.

                  You’re just a gun lover blindly trying to justify a reason for owning them when one doesn’t exist.