Cause the main page claims support for Win11 my question is: Are there any caveats for using Windows 10?
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Windows 10 or Windows 11
No
Win 10 works, but you miss out on performance because you are missing the CPU scheduler enhancements for recent generations of Zen. Also Windows 10 is not officially supported by Framework so the level of support you get may be limited. Basically, use at your own risk.
It’s out of support in 2025.
I went with 11 for the aforementioned issues. Originally wasn’t planning on it, but when I saw that 10 wasn’t supported, and that there were performance concerns with it, I bit the bullet and installed 11. Have been pleasantly surprised by it. Followed the FW guide for upgrading the main board (from my 11th gen), and it went pretty smoothly. No online account needed either (use Rufus to make the boot media and remove that requirement). I may even change my desktop machine over to it.
Incidentally, Stacksocial has Win 11 Pro right now for $25. Cheapest you’ll find it anywhere.
Been using 11 on my frameworks since my first one with an 11th Gen i7. It works just fine. The new UI takes some getting used to but once you do, 10 will feel and look so outdated and old to you.
I initially down-graded my Thinkpad P14s Gen 3 AMD with the Ryzen 7 6850U to Windows 10.
I just can’t tolerate the shitty Win11 taskbar that you can’t move to the side. I learned how much I interface with sub-menus in it after the upgrade and how much Microsoft broke it.
But, I kept having the odd lock up on that machine where just froze while sitting at idle with the screen off. I bought the laptop because of the stability of Thinkpads as I used a few in the past and all were remarkably stable. Until this one?! I really started to doubt going the AMD route with that laptop.
Upgrading back to Windows 11 resolved all those weird freezing issues. That was easier once I found ExplorerPatcher on Github which resolved all those annoying issues with the Taskbar.
I suspect the updated schedulers in Windows 11 and better driver support with new hardware are responsible. The latter simply being that AMD may be testing GPU and chipset driver on Win 11 more thoroughly.
Just use Windows 11. Its inevitable that if you use Windows, you will need to go to 11 anyway, so why fight it. It will ultimately have better modern driver support and handles modern chips more efficnently than 10 does.
I have 10 on my work laptop and 11 on my Framework–using my work laptop feels like a step backwards. 11 does have some things that take getting used to, but once you get familiar it, 10 feels like using grandma’s pc.
I’ve got my FW13 AMD 7840U this week and been setting it up.
Has anyone successfully installed Windows 10 on the AMD FW13?
When I do it and install driver-bundle, I still have 7 unknown devices.Windows 10 update doesn’t find drivers for these devices. Official AMD drivers also don’t install them.
But Windows 11 does install and find everything.
I find is curious that there are drivers for Windows 11 but not for 10?
I really don’t like the UI of Windows 11, they moved a lot of stuff to different places and I just find the new feel to be slower.
I’m also using Windows 10 / 11 Enterprise Edition, if that should make a difference.
