• Detheroth@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 year ago

    Sorry if this isn’t the right place. But the comments here spurred this train of thought.

    It seems everyone agrees that the ultra wealthy are the real problem. Yet there is always consistent divisive arguments about which group of people that the wealthy should be oppressing ‘more’.

    Men and women of every race are being brutalized by a system that doesn’t give two shits about us. This system is governed by people who are incapable of empathy.

    Studies and articles are released constantly detailing the destruction of our society/civilisation and instead of humans banding against the monsters that control the wealth (and, by extension, the world), yet we argue amongst ourselves.

    We are being systematically turned on each other so that the 1% can become the .1%. Until the 99% can actually co-operate against the system, we are doomed to repeat this God forsaken cycle.

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      1 year ago

      Frankly I agree. I did what would be considered quite well in my career. That does not mean however I was treated well at all. I am not talking about money, I am talking about being valued, considered, respected, and treated well on a human level. And I worked for a company that would make those good company lists too.

  • Blapoo@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I’ve got news for this article: Having a steady job doesn’t make you a breadwinner

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      1 year ago

      Neat, the article and the study even talks about it

      The study calls for a reevaluation of the breadwinner ideology, highlighting the need to understand and support American men’s diverse and often precarious employment experiences.

      Hell, the article’s conclusion is about economic instability being a bad thing? >

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    Nobody gives two flying fucks about men. Women are put onto a pedestal and given preferential treatment in life, dating, academia, court systems, social services, and nearly everything else you can think of. Meanwhile men are told they are disposable and worthless and for some reason the cause of the worlds problems because of some misguided notion that the “patriarchy” rules everything when in reality it is a super minority of extremely wealthy men and women. Men build social order, liberal democracy, and nearly everything else women take for granted that let them live happy, healthy, and cozy lives.

    With WaPo reporting a couple days ago that the “death gap” is widening yet again between men and women because men are suffering from more mental health issues stemmed by our current society, the fact that no one really cares is crazy.

    Without men society collapses. Who is going to do all the real dirty jobs that keep the world moving. Highly doubt Becky from HR who can’t start every morning without complaining out loud his bad the coffee is and how cold it is in the office, will ever be working as a line man in sub freezing temps trying to get power back on when her husband dies from an early heart attack from dealing with her BS all day.

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      Among other things, I take issue with “men build social order, liberal democracy, nearly everything else…”. This is simply not true, social order has existed in many forms since people existed, liberal democracy has existed in many places run primarily by women or in mixed gender groups, and men do not exclusively build the world.

      Yes, men are experiencing a mental health crisis (at least in the US where I am most familiar), and it has been largely ignored by government but not because women are deemed more important, but because we do not support mental health of anyone. To say no one cares and no one is doing anything about it is like saying no one cares about the lives of our children because we haven’t solved school shootings yet. People know it’s a problem, people want it to change and to fix it, but our system of government is not reflective of the people’s opinions. (This is part of what makes up poorly conceived rhetoric about men ruining things, “if men created our liberal democracy and society as you say, surely it’s obvious it is not working out too well”).

      It’s normal to feel upset and defensive when you see a group you identify with suffering. It’s not okay to take those negative emotions and direct them towards other groups, be they gender, ethnic, social, or otherwise. Remember it’s in the best interests of those who oppress to keep the oppressed fighting amongst themselves.

    • Bipta@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      You started off with reasonable complaints and ended with spouting off misogynistic bullshit.

      • spacecadet@lemm.ee
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        It wasn’t misogyny, it was research based truth. Check the most recent noble prize winner in economics. A woman essentially stating exactly this.