• michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Human rights are those required for human dignity and flourishing not those which are universally possessed in a world full of distress and toil.

    Freedom of speech is one such commonly understood but often denied. For instance if the content of your speech can see someone removed from the land of their birth to one where they are stateless and homeless what other rights do they possess?

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      23 hours ago

      I don’t think birthright citizenship qualifies as a “human right” - most countries that (officially) care more about “human rights” than USA does doesn’t have that. Whether it should be removed or not is not for me to say, however. It’s a switch away from what it has genuinely mesnt to be an American.

      Not having birthright citizenship doesn’t (necesarilly) mean the newborn wouldn’t have any citizenship at all

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        22 hours ago

        There are many birthright citizens of all ages not just infants. They would instantly become homeless and destitute in a country where they may not speak the language and have no proof of citizenship even if they may eventually have some due to them eventually.

        Furthermore this is a vehicle to deny them other human rights by selectively removing people who are entitled by our constitution to citizenship for speaking against the government.

        Right of redress assembly speech to be secure in their person , and to be subject to the law not a ruler are all important rights herein denied.

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      23 hours ago

      You are still not allowed to make someone stateless. That has not changed.

      You seem to be confused as to what human rights actually are, rather than what you want them to be. I suggest you look at the wiki page.

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            12 hours ago

            Why on earth do you think not being listed in a particular document makes something not a human right

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              4 hours ago

              Because it’s factually not a Human Right?

              Your opinion of what you want them to be. Doesn’t make it so.

              You have the right to a nationality. (Article 15) How you get one is up to each country. Most grant you one from either of your parents. Not the location you were born.

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        19 hours ago

        How would this result in anyone being stateless? You do realize people still inherit the citizenship of their parents right?