Copyright holders hire services that use bots to monitor file-sharing networks and send ISPs millions of notices a year alleging infringement by someone at a particular IP address, Cox told the Supreme Court. Cox said that ISPs “have no way of verifying whether a bot-generated notice is accurate” and that even if the notices are accurate, terminating an account would punish every user in a household where only one person may have illegally downloaded copyrighted files.
So what’s going to happen is there will be a group that will exploit all the horribly insecure home routers out there with active CVEs that will never get patched. They will then use systems within those networks to do the torrenting, and then securely copy them away.
Then a ton of people will be accused of piracy just by their IPs and get disconnected.
I’m sure it’ll be fine…
So if the Supreme Court allows this I can just accuse record labels of copyright infringement to have their Internet cut off?
I will support this on the single condition that all of Meta gets disconnected because they did piracy.
In fact, all AIs are doing piracy. Cut off those companies too.
YouTube gets cut off for hosting copyrighted material. Twitch is cut off.
Twitter gets cut off for sharing copyrighted material.
Google stole all those books. Cut it off.
Do it all. Burn it to the ground.
Nintendo smiles at this.
Accused? Not convicted but accused?!
This Supreme Court may just love that!
Even if you were convicted of it that doesn’t seem like a suitable punishment. What if you didn’t even use the Internet to copy whatever it was? If I used a VCR to copy a video would I be banned from VCRs?
Why does the copyright owner get to dictate the punishment? When someone steals from a regular person the judge doesn’t ask the person what the punishment should be.
Even if you were convicted of it that doesn’t seem like a suitable punishment.
Agreed; It is not a suitable punishment.
Internet access is now practically required by a great deal of services that we depend on in order to live. Taking it away because of copyright infringement would be like banning someone from grocery stores for throwing a poppy seed at some corporation’s skyscraper.
If there is one thing the Conservative Majority SCOTUS likes is a to “answer” a question no one is asking.
Citizens United was based off an FEC decision about the Michael Moore, a commercial film maker, the docudrama Farenheite 9/11 which was critical of the Bush administration’s response to the 9/11 territorist attacks. The Complaint was the film was political advertisement 60 days before a general election. The FEC decided the film could be aired before the 2004 election as it didn’t support one candidate and only referenced how it was handled not current commentary In advertisements, and therefore was not not a political advertisement for a single candidate.
In response, Citizens United produced a “documentary” Celcius 41.11" which was critical of the Farenheite 9/11 and John Kerry’s actual policies. The FEC ruled this was clearly was a political advertisement put out by not a bona fide commercial film studio, and therefore could no be aired 60 days out from a general election.
What was argued to SCOTUS: Celcius 41.11 should be legal bc we did like Farenheite 9/11 and do not like John Kerry’s 2004 presidential policies
What SCOTUS ruled: Coperations could spend unlimited funds to be critical of an individual’s policies just so long as there was no coordination between the corporation and the candidate that said that the corporation supports
WTF this is even stupider that I thought. This is “Citizens United”?
Well, that was a bit of a stretch. Citizens United was challenging the law used by the FEC to stop their film. That law was first and foremost a law about banning advertising, money collection, and campaigning by non-campaign sources. So the Supreme Court was answering the asked question.
So… Meta?
So does that just mean I can claim that I’m an AI company and need to download all this copyright material for my “start up?”
It means if you accuse an AI company if piracy the ISP will have to disconnect them.
Are you a billionaire?
Dang it, you’re right.
Do I have an investment opportunity for you, you can buy in for the low low price of a billion dollars.
Allegedly?
I once (I’m old) loved Sony. The Japanese made-in-germany-brand with excellence, brilliance and innovation. I blindly purchased every new gadget, my house was full of Sony products.
Today, reading this and everything before that. I’m tired, boss. Corporates suck ass and totally lost sense how people work and what people do. We’re all just numbers that need to fit in.
Long story short: Fuck Sony, nowadays I do boycott them whenever. Won’t make a difference, but to me.
I’m old
The Sony rootkit was 20 years ago!
I’m older, 20yrs ago was yesterday 😁 But yes…I do remember this piece of sh…
I had two big screen TVs, receiver, PS3, audio gear, Dv cam. When they forced me to choose between disabling Linux boot on the PS3 or using Netflix just literally stripping away features I paid for, I never bought another Sony product.
They used to fill living rooms and be all over personal wear. Now they make an ok showing in what, mirrorless cameras?
Except the consoles I had every shit from them. Yes, they filled everything and nowadays I even dunno what they do except PlayStation
As to the Netflix, it might’ve been Netflix not Sony. The stupid ass app for this stupid ass service is very restrictive as to where it may be run. One of reasons I went back to piracy.
It was not Netflix. At a certain point Sony decided to strip the future from the PlayStation you didn’t have to strip the future but you could no longer update the PlayStation.
Netflix was first to require a newer version of the OS but sooner or later every game and every streaming title would require you to update to play the latest version.
They stripped it under the guise of piracy, It did absolutely nothing to stop piracy. The most they accomplished was keeping you from making a ISO of a disc after a long convoluted Linux install.
There were already blueray drives on the market that could read them enough to produce an ISO. It’s not like you could play any of the PlayStation games under Linux.
Furthermore, if you decided you didn’t want to game or stream on it anymore you could have left Linux on it and if anybody was really pirating using that feature they would have just bought another one and played on it. The only person they f***** over in this scenario was the average consumer.
Well, I don’t own shit from Sony anymore
Ok fuck, i didn’t know. But sure as fuck was one reason I never ever liked closed-systems like consoles or crapple or any of those. First they get you with lovely things, and when you’re hooked into their world, they’ll slowly strip you of your rights to quench you for bucks. Yeah, against piracy my ass.
I went from full piracy to legit (netflix, steam etc) just to be driven back to piracy, even though I am able and willing to spend. How stupid is that? And even Microsoft slowly manages to drive me completely to linux.
I went from full piracy to legit (netflix, steam etc) just to be driven back to piracy,
I think most of us who were of job age did the same. $10 a month not to worry about disc failures, shitty updates and they have most of what I want to watch? HELLS YES. We were naive to think they’d keep it going. They’re all trying to get up to that $100 per month per head cable price.
I shared a netflix when it came up, paid like 2,60 in the end. But it was too much for what I got: Some measly series, where the better ones were not finished. Half of what the Muricans got for exactly the same price. And on top of that I couldn’t install it (or view in HD) on most of my devices. Because they are rooted, as i prefer to OWN expensive tech-gadgets, not rent them.
I had it for the ease of use. Yes. In the end, sonarr/radarr and emby are way more comfy. I enter a series’ name and watch it some minutes later. Steam is still comfy because I don’t need TONS of HDDs (i already have an archive of like 100tb of disks) and don’t need to worry about updates. I only pirate to test a game. Nowadays 95% is crap anyway.
One streaming-service that has it all and lets me watch it on ANY device? Yeah sure, why not. But netfucks? lol no. Since i left they raised their prices like 2 or 3 times. But people don’t seem to care, so they’ll continue.
A VPN is fast becoming essential internet isn’t it?
Me: *looks at my 10-15TB/mo VPN usage*
It’s totally legit, I swear! Nothing but Linux ISOs and repo clones!
I upload almost 1tb/day lol
On a good day, yeah, I have 100Mb upload so I could just match that going full ham. But I mainly seed rare (<10 seeds) things now and set a 10.0 ratio cap on all of the new/popular stuff. Gotta keep those '80s and '90s ISOs seeded, ya know? ;)
I don’t seed much, usually only 1:1, but I’ve got about 30tb on soulseek/nicotine, 6000 movies, 250 series, 130k songs/full albums
That tends to happen in autocratic states.
We going to shut down Sony for pirating Adobe software and other companies?
In case anyone needed proof that intellectual property is a dystopian concept.
Dont doomsay so much, there’s a completely reasonable balance… that we are exceptionally far away from, because society is a kangaroo court on sale for the highest bidder.
Time to have an AI shut down Sony’s Internet? Maybe all the concurring judges?
The only reason I think this won’t pass is AI needs to steal copy written data. If there wasn’t a corporate shithead doing it then I’m sure the Supreme Court would allow this
You see, the corporate shithead will just share a gratuity with a few justices of choice. That’s how this court has been running for years.
Trump is supporting Cox in saying they ISPs shouldn’t be forced to disconnect pirates
Guess the check cleared
This terrifies me.
I have a collection of 240TB of (mostly) pirated material. I’m uploading 10s of TB a month, downloading ~3TB per month. All going through a VPN, and have never received a notice. Granted, I have unlimited 5 gigabit service at a residential address, so I’m guessing my ISP is catering to people like me with that offering.
Argh! pirate salute
VPN.
And make sure you bind it to the app, otherwise when it disconnects it will expose you
Mullvad does this nicely with lockdown mode. It’s also really inexpensive and you can pay anonymously so the only record they have is your customer ID number.
I’ve been a Torguard user for almost 10 years now
I’ve never used Torguard but I’m guessing it’s probably pretty good too? The only ones I hear about a lot are the big ones (NordVPN and the like) and I’m always leery of the really large, common and corporate used VPN services.
I ended up on Mullvad 7-8 years ago because of the recommendation of a SysAdmin I worked with at the time.
As far as I know, this one was made for torrents. I push terabytes of data through it, up and down, no complaints at all. I avoid all the ones that advertise and lie on YouTube channels. Nord, surf shark, etc. Torguard is pretty small and offer a lot. I have it on my Zorin laptop, desktop, tv, phone and tablet just in case I need to change locations.
