This is more of an offseason post and I won’t be surprised if it gets removed. Sorry in advance.
Anyway, I’ve been watching a lot more college ball than I ever have before. Seems like people regard Caleb Williams as the best overall prospect based on his physical abilities and ability to make crazy stuff happen.
I’ve also heard Drake Maye’s name pop up quite a bit. I’ve noticed he’s only got two years played, disregarding his redshirt year. Seemed to be a top tier prospect, but I’m a little confused about why NFL fans think he should be the second QB taken in the draft. How many times have we seen dudes who played a limited time in college go on and prove to not be ready for the NFL?
Next there’s Bo Nix. Dude is lighting it up this year for Oregon. I would think he would be rated over Maye.
Michael Penix Jr. is my favorite prospect. He’s not perfect but he’s got a nice lefty deep ball and he’s fun to watch. Possible Heisman candidate. His completion percentage is low tonight, but playing in pouring rain will do that.
That all being said, I understand that a big part of evaluating the talent of college guys depends on the strength of their teammates, and the strength of their opponents.
Just want some discussion here. Forgive me for being a layman
I can see 5 QBs taken in the 1st round this year: Williams, Maye, Penix Jr, Nix, and McCarthy.
Jayden Daniels might be in that conversation but I haven’t seen many LSU games or any of his highlights outside of his 8 TD game yesterday
Caleb stock has dropped massively the last few weeks. It’s looking more and more likely Penix Jr and Bo Nix will be QB 1 and 2 with Caleb a distant third
Caleb Williams can make all the throws and run the ball better than you think . Only problems are attitude and somewhat disappearing against good defenses .
Drake Maye has everything size related you could want in a QB. Really good last year and fell off a bit this year but still a great prospect
Bo Nix is a guy I’m not very high on since im a UGA fan and Everytime we’ve played him he’s been irrelevant. UGA defense is closest thing you can get to NFL defenses in college and he struggled heavily . Older prospect but has had an insane year this year .
For penix I haven’t watched enough of him to say anything but he’s also had a good year statistically
Honorable mention to Jayden daniels who’s probably gonna blast up draft boards after these last couple weeks and I’m sure his combine numbers will be insane .
Outside of the top guys there is honestly some decent Guys who could do some stuff in the NFL and I think like always it’ll be based on what situation guys go to
Never a bad idea to open a discussion my friend…
There’s a lot that goes into QB evaluation…
Experience, injury history, scheme fit, etc…
More often than not a team drafts a QB not necessarily based on if they are the best QB, but if they are the best overall fit for their team…
So let’s take Caleb Williams and Drake Maye for example: Both are fine prospects with tremendous upside… However, team “A” may be more inclined to take Drake Maye over Caleb Williams due to them believing that Maye is better suited for their specific system…
Franchises are in a position where they would like to draft a young QB on a Rookie contract who can still compete and win… That way the team can allocate financial resources to other positions and not have to pay the QB $50 million per year…
Doing due diligence goes a long way in this process (Senior Bowl, NFL Combine, Pro Days, Individual interviews, etc). And still sometimes teams get it wrong lol…
This is why I personally wait to really dive into QB prospects until the end of the regular season and look at the draft order… (Chances are that the 14 teams that made the playoffs that year are pretty set at the QB position). That way I have an initial 18 Team draft order for better reference…
That’s just me though…
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penix is old as hell and has awful injury history. he’s really not very mobile. in the right situation he could ball out probably, but those two factors are definitely keeping him from being QB1
You draft based on potential and hope you can teach the rest usually.
I’m going to be honest here, I’m not really sold on any of the QBs coming out this year. Which is surprising because there’s so many of them lol.
Caleb - He takes too long to throw and his scrambling crap won’t work in the NFL against freight train edge rushers. Also concerned about his mental strength.
Maye - Ok, I know he’s on a pretty meh team. But I’ve seen him have some real stinkers against straight up bad teams. I feel like he’s being hyped up just because of his old school ‘blueprint’ QB. Big, strong arm, tall, can move in the pocket. He really doesn’t wow me too much though.
Penix - He’s old and made of glass. Struggles to throw with touch and he’s surrounded by NFL guys.
Bo Nix - Again, old and plays in a simplified system. Will probably win the Heisman which will probably move him up draft boards.
Jayden Daniels - His throwing accuracy is questionable sometimes and I feel like he frequently get’s bailed out by top 15 pick Nabers. Very small frame and you have to worry about him taking shots, especially since his athleticism is a big part of his game.
Then there’s some other guys like Riley Leonard, Jordan Travis (RIP), or Rattler but I think these guys are late picks and not really startable guys.
If Jayden Daniels goes to a team with a halfway decent O-Line and a top WR I think he can be the best QB in the draft, better than Williams and Maye.
Minnesota maybe? Depending on how the season pans out. I can see Daniels going to the mid round between picks 10-20 depending on draft order, as this years draft is very WR and skill position heavy. I could see a run on WR occurring around picks 7-10 which ends up pushing Daniels back.
Like six weeks ago people were citing intel from nfl front offices saying Caleb was a better prospect than burrow.
The nfl draft is the most amazing “watch people become dumber than rocks” experience ever.
It’s the age-old problem of trying to project success at the next level. The league favors physical traits, believing they can coach up the intangibles. But then a Brock Purdy comes along and shows how wrong those priorities can be.
Check out the Bears sub for the worst QB takes. When you have vested interest or blind fandom, you say dumb things.