Itch.io has "deindexed" all NSFW content following discussions with payment processors contacted by the same pressure group that recently targeted Steam.
    • ShadowRam@fedia.io
      375·
      1 year ago

      Ridiculous on their part.

      With crypto going more and more mainstream, it won’t be long before another payment system shows up and starts competing against Visa/MC and Paypal.

      They are opening up a lane for a competitor to fill a fairly large gap.

          • PonyOfWar@pawb.socialEnglish
            24·
            1 year ago

            So really, either man the fuck up and actually prove to people that those who choose to live as you do aren’t less than worthless shit disturbers, or recognize that you have a problem and give it up. You can choose which one.

            I don’t see why I’d have to prove anything to some random payment providers. Their job is to handle my payment for any legal purpose, not to morally judge me because some conservative organization from the other side of the world told them to.

              • piccolo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                5·
                1 year ago

                People are entitled to equality in service. Porn is no more illegal then alcohol. If you can go to a grocery store and buy a bottle of whiskey on credit, then why should porn be treated any different?

          • simple@piefed.socialEnglish
            19·
            1 year ago

            That’s up to government regulations and something that people can vote on - not something the payment processor can suddenly control and block

          • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            142·
            1 year ago

            I’m talking about why they WANT to do it.

            Hm… Looks to me like you’re making excuses for a group of crazy anti-LGBTQ evangelicals who are using lies and slander to police the world based on your own flawed morality.

          • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            1 year ago

            What the fuck are you even talking about? I cant tell if youre defending this shit, or having some weird view where you think youre against it. Either way, eww.

    • Match!!@pawb.socialEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      I feel like I used to know but I’m getting kinda sleepy and it’s sorta hard to breathe

  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    461·
    1 year ago

    Transcript

    nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. But since they’re in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like “unalive” and “seggs” because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they’re easier to market to.

    nickyflowers: Oh I’m sorry you’re a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa’s feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?

    • EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      322·
      1 year ago

      100%

      Almost invariably people like this have a crippling porn addiction and refuse to believe that they’re the ones with the problem. They delude themselves into believing that if the porn just didn’t exist that there wouldn’t be a problem anymore.

  • mctoasterson@reddthat.comEnglish
    24·
    1 year ago

    Whether it is this or tracking/disallowing firearms purchases, the payment processors should not be making editorial decisions on legal commerce.

    If the item or service is legal in the jurisdiction, the payment processors should be on the hook for agnostically allowing the transactions. Period.

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zipEnglish
    12·
    1 year ago

    And “how” did they pressure the payment processors? Pressure on central deciders or what? Spicy data on them?

    And couldn’t they influence elections that way?

    • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.ukEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Go listen to the first season of the Hot Money podcast, it’ll explain it in much better detail than I’ll remember. Essentially VISA and MasterCard don’t like the reputational damage of being associated with certain types of porn. It’s not a hill they’re willing to die on. If you want your app to accept online payment you’ve got to be in line with what they find acceptable.

    • GameGod@lemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      This law sounds good in theory, but there’s a lot of lawful content that is really undesirable (scams, spam, deepfakes, hate speech, etc.) and platforms need to be able to deal with that. The law isn’t fast or flexible enough to keep up, and every country has different (or laughable) definitions of some of these things.

      The YouTube community guidelines are a pretty good overview of whatever shady shit people are trying to pull these days: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567?hl=en

        • GameGod@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          I don’t disagree with you, but you’ve put some thought into this so maybe you can help us understand your logic and rationale more.

          as soon as they deem profitable

          What’s profitable about losing sales of adult games?

          Also, what leverage do these groups have over banks and payment processors? If you have leverage over Visa and MasterCard, some of the most profitable companies in the world, I could imagine doing way more nefarious things than this. I just don’t get it. Some random group in Australia has leverage over Visa and MasterCard - American companies - is that what we’re saying here?

          Those are things that should be handled by a government in defence of the public interest of everyone

          I think you might have too much faith in government. Facebook and YouTube shouldn’t be hyper-polarizing brainwashing machines either, but here we are 20 years later and governments have done jack shit to address that. If anything, we’re going the wrong direction - Governments are seeing that and the TikTok model as tools they can have at their disposal to suppress dissent. But ironically, I think YouTube and many other platforms quietly accept that if we want to live in a somewhat harmonious society, we can’t leave it to the government to make all the rules. (eg. YouTube banning vaccine misinformation and disinformation during a public health emergency.)

          On a tangent here, maybe the only potential upside from this situation with Steam is that horrifically misogynistic waifu simulators aren’t going to be 1 click away from the new Call of Duty. Seriously, Steam is just full of super gross anime shit that kids shouldn’t see, but the main audience of the platform is kids. The way Steam puts that content beside everything else is really gross and they really should get called out for that.