Just curious. I know everybody’s different.
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Clients that say, “did you get a shot of….” or “do you have any more of……” or my personal favorite, “could you just give me all the photos you took?” No Barbara, I don’t have more of anything and I’m not giving you everything I took.
Adobe charging a subscription fee for LR & PS.
All these YT photographers charging money for their “become a better photographer” courses that promise nonsense.
The race to the bottom in wedding photography for lowest price.
Instagram… need I say more?
So you find it a pet peeve that Adobe charges for their product monthly… yet you also believe photographers shouldn’t race to the bottom for wedding photos… why afraid you won’t be able to afford the $9.99 you pay for Adobe products once the race to the bottom is won…
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Honestly Adobe photography plan (Photoshop + Lightroom Classic) is a pretty good deal.
Before, you had to shell out like $300 for Lightroom alone. Almost $1000 for Photoshop.
If you’re a professional, you could justify it. If you’re a hobbyist, that’s as much money as a nice lens.
But it’s not the end of the story here either, since you didn’t get free major version updates. If you suddenly decided to splurge on the latest and greatest camera, you needed to buy a new version of Lightroom so it could actually support it. If you got a new lens and Lightroom didn’t have a built in correction profile in your version, you also had to splurge.
This is like $1300 every 3-4 years, or you have to sail the high seas (Yarr me hearties).
Now, it’s $120/year. It’s a much more palatable amount of money to pay for someone who’s not a dentist.
The race to the bottom in wedding photography for lowest price.
That’s the whole point of competition buddy.
I was lucky enough to buy a cs6 serial key before it was subscription (for web, only recently got into photography) would you say LR is worth the subscription for a hobbyist? it wasn’t included in the package wayback when
i bought a capture one perpetual license and never looked back. if your budget is free, you can combo with Paint.Net and RawTherapee
Darktable. Works quite well.
I swear by Affinity. It’s like $40 for a perpetual license, and almost as good as Photoshop. More polished in many ways.
Does it do what LR does? Cs6 has an older version of PS that i have nearly a decade of experience with, so it’s been too be able to do what LR can do for me to consider swapping over
At some point your version of CS will stop being updated (if it hasn’t yet) and you’ll have no choice but to to go the CC if want the newer features or if you get a camera with a raw file your old software doesn’t support.
This has certainly already happened. Haven’t gotten PS updates since around 2019; until I got into photography recently I just didn’t feel I needed the new features is all
Very recently I tried taking a photo in RAW and ps wouldn’t load it, so i started considering CC for LR
I’m a hobbyist, the Lightroom and Photoshop subscription has well been worth if to me. People here always go on about how their copy of cs6 will never expire, while I smile and nod with my gpu-accelerated, ai-enhanced super tool that does in minutes for a hundred photos what takes them hours in Photoshop.
I agree. Between 2010-2020 things didn’t change nearly as much as adobe has in only the past 3 years. These days if with AI things change fast and you’re missing out if you’re not updating somewhat regularly. Can you still get the same result with 2018 software? Sure, but it’s going require more time and effort than if you use the newest versions.
Subscription model can be annoying, and especially so when it was new. But these days it has a lot of upsides and I prefer it.
This is probably the biggest seller for me.
Very well, you have convinced me sir. I shall try the subscription
Very cool. Can’t hurt to give it a whirl, I think you can save a bit if you commit to a whole year at a time, I don’t quite recall though.
I’m thinking about giving the subscription model a go. I’ve been using CS5 for years. I reckon the features they’ve added since I last purchased it could save me a lot of time in the long run.
I was pretty unhappy when I upgraded my computer and my old Photoshop CS6 stopped working. Affinity Photo does the job, too, but I have a lot of Photoshop muscle memory to relearn.
Personally I’d say it’s worth it because I feel like editing is half the process and so far LR/PS has been the only software that works for my own process and art making. There are other software option though that work great! I think in general, whatever editing software you vibe with is worth it
I think the Adobe Photography plan for €9.99 is a pretty good deal. It’s Capture One that bugs me for constantly price gouging and adding useless features while slacking on making pro features reliable.
It’s a pretty good deal if you are a professional or very serious hobbyist. But I think the main gripe is the subscription. You just end up paying it for life, and that is a hell of a lot of money in your lifetime, especially if you are more of a casual hobbyist.
A lot of these YT photographers aren’t that great themselves, especially a lot of the street photographers. They just walk down the street taking run and gun photos of all the good looking girls they see then ‘slap’ a filter on. And most of the photos aren’t even of them doing anything interesting or in interesting light, they are literally just walking.
Point 1: agree! But it’s not that much when you consider it a business expense.
Point 2: I’m convinced half the people out there offering coursed just watched someone else’s course and changed a couple things around.”
Point 3: Phones have made the non-photographer believe that anyone can take great photos, so it only makes sense that they don’t want to pay a premium for “something my nephew could do.”
Point 4: I stopped posting on instagram when I realized most of the people liking my photos probably looked at them for less than three seconds.
Point 1: I don’t have a problem with the price. It’s the spending money every month for a piece of software.
Point 2: You are absolutely correct. Same thing for these people who sell presets for LR.
Point 3: I have actually heard “my nephew can do it for a case of beer”. I smile and say “Hey no worries, we all have to start somewhere.”
Point 4: I quit posting when I realized the only photos that gained traction were photos of bands that they would turn around and use on their IG and FB without bothering to give credit. Or my favorite, “Hey my girlfriend is a photographer and wants your raws can you hook her up?”
That last one about the girlfriend. Yikes.
Adobe is one of the worst companies ever.
They created a bunch of programs that have become commonplace in the business environment but then you cant use them unless you pay them constantly.
There is no justifiable reason, other than money, that they cant offer individual lifetime license for a given iteration of a program. Like why cant I just pay a single fee to be able to use this year’s iteration of acrobat pro indefinitely, with limited future updates provided.
Like I really gotta fuckin pay this company $20 a month to be able to use the pdf format efficiently?
Can ya at least let me get like 3-4 versions old software at a one time fee so I can at least edit pdfs and add signature blocks and shit??? I mean come the fuck on.
Shit should be a crime… image if you had to pay microsoft or apple a monthly fee to be able to log in to your computer.
Abode is one of the sleezest companies on the planet.
Sony hype influencers. Yuck. Bokeh influencers. Why.
Ive seen some amazing shots taken on old dslrs. Never once thought “wow what a terrible camera”
To be fair, when it comes to wedding videography, Sony really does excel. The true test of autofocus is a wedding video with lighting effects that are all over the place. You’ll have flashing lights and a fog machine but also really dark shadows closer to the floor and the lights are strobing so your actual baseline light levels are EXTREMELY low. That’s where dynamic range and really good autofocus come into play. The colors of competitor cameras might be better or more preferred by some, sure. But from a usability perspective, I’d take Sony any day of the week.
“But…bokeh bro…look at the creamy bokeh bro”
I don’t even wanna know what the fuck a ”bokeh influencer” is.
YOU NEED this AMAZING LENS to shoot MORE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS. Their game is shoot never stopped below f1.2, cry about autofocus, bully people that dont have at least full frame and always claim that the least amount of actually sharp stuff in a pic is more pro. Half a pupil is in focus.
I said I don’t wanna know 😡
Now you do anyways, enjoy Ü
I hate subscriptions fees for software and wish I could get a lifetime license for LR.
I still pay for it because I like having my library saved on their cloud and accessible from my computers and smartphone, especially when I’m traveling.I switched to On1 Photo Raw and never looked back.
Same. On1 Photo Raw and Davinci Resolve, never missed Adobe.
Adobe has been subscription based now for over a decade I think. Doesn’t really work anymore to whine about that.
Also, as much as people hate subscriptions, Adobe doing it has overall been a REALLY good thing, cause it has removed the barrier to entry for sooo many people.
People forget how unbelievably prohibitively expensive the Adobe products used to be, especially if you wanted the full suite.
People shooting with the lens hood on backwards. Take it off or put it on facing the correct way!
I’m a regular offender for this - but I’ll never stop because it’s too handy!
If I take it off, I will lose it… it’s a miracle I haven’t lost it up to this point
So why not put it on and use as intended?
Because you may not need it for every shot and it makes your lens even longer than it already is, making it even easier to catch/ bounce off the nearest obstacle as you pass it. Why does this upset folk so much? 🤣
I wrote “shooting with the lens hood on backwards” but seems the people replying read it as “never have the lens hood on backwards ever” which is not the same thing.
Storing and walking around? Fine?
Shooting for 10-20 minutes or more with it on backwards? Not a fan.
the phrase “I am new to the photography game.”
I hate the whole “game” phrasing unless it’s, you know, an actual game.
The watch game, the gun game, the baking game - ugh
People assuming the “nice camera” is why my photos look so good. Like I am just there to click a button at the right time. :P
I wish I had your camera so I could take photos like that…
Never heard that, at most: how the hell have you looked to “that” and realised that it would be an interesting shot.
Dinner was delicious, you must have an amazing oven.
You don’t need my camera.
You need to develop an eye for color, composition, to be able to see light, shadows and how they interact. Some of that you can learn. It’s basic tech stuff that is the foundation of good photos but both of my teacher’s they said I had a painter’s eye. I got that because I’m a complete art freak. I study art a lot, always have. I do art outside of photography, draw and paint, so I think that really helps.
Go to museums and look at art and see what the painters were doing. How they used light and shadow, form and color. If you can train your eye to see that then your photography will benefit enormously.
This is funny as I came from a painting background and moved into filmmaking around six years ago. I often think how different much of my painting would be if I thought about light the way DPs do rather than painters. Broadening one’s horizons is always a good thing.
“This meal is fantastic; you must have a great stove.”
Good gear certainly doesn’t hurt. The brain and eye are most important.
We all know that a monkey can take pictures like Annie Leibovitz as long as they have a good camera. Right?
Just know that there’s a reason that whenever you’re all taking group iPhone pictures, you’re the person that everyone wants to take the picture :)
Some of my best photos have been taken on a Nikon D80 that I got at a thrift store for like $10… and my main cameras the A7R V
Like telling a good cook “Nice pasta, what pans did you use?”
I paint realism (usually based off my own photos) and in one on the art subs someone said they didn’t like realism because “the camera already did that.” They couldn’t understand why that statement was offensive to both painters and photographers.
I used to have this line creep into the back of my head. I have been taking pictures as long as I can remember and every so often I would think “is it just that I have a good camera?”
Then I set my xt2 down on a table at my high school reunion. I had recently been taking pictures so the settings weren’t even all that far off but it wasn’t in auto. I looked over and saw a few old friends playing with it and taking pictures.
They turned out terrible lol. It was so validating.
Anyone else remember the ‘What the Duck’ comic? This one was always my favorite.
I mean, yes and no 😅
Can you get that ultra wide, 180 degree effect shot on a disposable versus a camera fitted with that lens? No, it’d be the gear in that case. Lots of gear can achieve super quality versus mediocre quality for IQ and such.
I always thought that too and then I had a “nice” mirrorless camera and then thought its just me lol
…and they go buy that nice camera (with a kit zoom lens), burst shoot literally everything for a week, never transfer the images or even look at them, and then leave the camera in the closet forever.
I hate it when my friends ask me this, the second question they usually ask is ‘What filter did you use?’
When I reply with ‘an ND filter’ they look at me like I’m crazy because it’s not an instagram filter.
“Nice camera” “nice lens”
“Nice photos what camera do you shoot with?”
Every single time
Well “clicking the button at the right time” is actually a big part of photography :D
Overuse of the clarity slider and sharpening in colour images to the point my eyes bleed… coupled with the club mentality circle jerk of people saying these images are awesome… no… no they really aren’t.
Yes! This seems to be a somewhat common issue with people who do the same sort of photography niche as I do, throw in unnecessary vigenette
People who think working with photographers is like working with someone who take pictures on their phones.
Had a client who ordered me to take 40 photos of an event and was mad that I only delivered 40 photos. She complained that she knew I took more photos at the event and I should just send them over for free.
Absolutely this. Clients so often don’t appreciate the time it takes to cull photos and make adjustments to exposure, wb etc. That time adds up fast.
I agree with this, but before I was into photography I hired several photographers for various events and I always found it super annoying when they withheld a lot of pretty good images. Sometimes clients care more about quantity. I think the best situation is to under-promise and over-deliver. And not every image has to be absolutely perfect.
That is a fair point. Ideally, there’s good communication between client and photographer before a shoot or event, so that these things can be clarified early.
Weekend warriors. They have full time jobs and undercut the market. They damage the industry they claim to aspire to. They can’t take criticism from full time pros either.
Them: nice photograph (or “picture” ) . .
Also Them: you must have an expensive camera
Overuse of orange/teal (or other similar unnatural) color grading. I can understand it at some photos for expressing a mood, but why is it almost everywhere and especially in nature photos…
Mercifully it seems to be a little less lately…
street photographers who only shoot a bunch of silhouettes and the back of peoples heads
“My phone does the same thing!”
In the past I dealt with a surprising amount of photographers who go out of their way to shit on novice photographers. Everyone was a beginner once.
People who have no idea about photography who buy themselves a $2000 machine with telephoto lens.
The notion that “the most money you can make off of photography is selling your gear”.
