The Pistons are in year 4 of their rebuild (some would say they’ve been rebuilding since the Drummond draft), and currently seem to be taking steps backwards with their young core.
Cade is currently the least efficient player to average 20+ ppg in the league & Monty has been questionable with his coaching patterns. Their 2020 draft where they selected Hayes, Stewart, & Bey, has been a failure considering who was available on the board. They had similar cap money to Houston this off-season & instead of adding quality vets to help their core, they took on expiring contracts for players that aren’t even in the rotation.
There is no doubt they are the “black eye” of the league, & have been for some time.
Your post really helps add context to how bad the 9-73 Sixers were.
Detroit has won four (!!!) of their last 41 games. It’s crazy to grasp how bad that is. And they’d have to literally repeat their 4-37 stretch to finish 8-74 in an 82-game stretch.
Giving Monty that contract was such a huge mistake
Suns could have told you that
Garbage fans who shit talk the coach who took them from the depths to the literal NBA finals. I hope Suns never win a ring.
Monty did a great job in his first 2 seasons in Phoenix. He turned around the franchise after a 63 loss season
Nah I thought it was going to be a great hire (and it honestly still could be)
The culture Monty established in Phoenix was imperative to our success. Then again, maybe it was just the personnel.
Exactly this, Monty wasn’t hired to take the pistons to the the championship overnight, he was hired to change the culture and teach the young guys how to win like he did in Phoenix. That takes time especially when he’s brought into the worst roster in the league.
They just aren’t going to win with Cade chuckingham playing historically badly for a high usage player
Cade has one season with over 16 games in his career which was his rookie season. I’m 100% sure his efficiency will go up when the roster isn’t bottom last in talent. He’s a natural playmaker with no one to pass to
Give it to Doc Rivers and he will somehow make a play-in with that team.
No coach in the league could succeed with such shit talent. The Pistons have a bottom 5 roster and a bottom 5 record. Why should that surprise anyone?
Yup, potential vs NBA talent. Pistons have lots of guys with potential, but they aren’t NBA starter talents yet.
Do they actually have lots of guys with potential? Cade straight up isn’t all that good, I wouldn’t be surprised if he never makes all nba, Ivey obviously is an nba talent but he’s not great. Is wiseman even still alive?
Duren, stew, cade, ivey, ausar all have immense potential. If you dont watch us why act like you have a clue?
Immense potential? How many of them have all nba potential? Duren; maybe. Stew; hard disagree. Cade; maybe. Ivey; don’t think so but might make an all star game at some point. Ausar, too early to really tell, but I’d say maybe? I’d be shocked if more than 2 of the 5 make an all nba team in their career, and more than 3 make an all star game. My prediction is 1 all nba 2 all stars.
That’s decent but not insane.
I think they do. Is just a matter of growth. Cade could very well need to take the Wiggins path instead of the Ant.
Cade has the kind of physical attributes and skill set that could make him top 10. I don’t think he’s a lead ball handler, they need a starting PG who can steer the offense, with Cade providing the wild card that breaks teams down.
Duren might be the best of the bunch, at what is still probably the most impactful position in the NBA.
Ivey, Thompson, and Stewart all have ideal role-player skill set for good teams.
Honestly the more I watch Cade the more I think he doesn’t have the physical attributes to be top 10. It’s kinda weird watching a big PG who isn’t a bad shooter struggle to create space. Only other similar guy I can think of is D’Lo
Again it’s about potential, eventually there will come a point where we say “Damn, Cade is just fucking inefficient.” and we stop saying he’s that guy.
Lmaoo u give spoelstra that exact team and they have atleast 8 wins by now
You think they wouldn’t have a bottom 5 record simply cause Spoelstra coached them?
I mean shi literally look at last year what ? After the first round where it was just jimmy every team we went against had a better roster and coach spo ran laps around mazzula and thibs he’s doing that to everyone
Coach spo coached dion waiters , Hassan whiteside , and James Johnson as his main players and turned around an 11-30 record to start the season and finished 30-11 41-41 for the season in 16,17. So yea u give spo the pistons roster and he’s getting u wins
turned around an 11-30 record to start the season and finished 30-11 41-41 for the season
I’m confused by your comment
Of the first 41 games they only won 11 of them, they then proceeded to win 30 out of the next 41 games to give them a 41-41 record. There are 82 games in a season.
In 2016-17 we started the season 11-30 , with the core players of goran,waiters , whiteside , James Johnson , Tyler Johnson just mediocre ass players and with no trades in that season that team turned around in the second half of the season going 30-11 so I’d think he’d do just fine with the talent the pistons have
This doesn’t make sense. You say this then you later that he had a team that started 11-30. That’s what the pistons are doing right now. But a lot do the issue with Detroit is they have a losing culture for the last 15 years at least. Miami with Riley and Spo have created a winning culture.
Hard homer take
Not really. Spo has a history of turning shit into silver
In the regular season?
Yes
Of course lol
they didn’t give him 6 years for him to turn it around in 4 weeks lol. Detroit’s FO needs to take a good long look at the shit roster they created
Monty has proven in two situations that he’s a solid head coach. He can’t change the fact Cade is bad.
Yeah, those are some bad boys!!!
James Wiseman effect
This started way before James Wiseman was even thought of
Why trade Saddiq Bey for Wiseman man, at least grab those 5 second round picks that were offered instead
No one wants to come play in Detroit Michigan. This is coming from a lifelong pistons fan and past Michigan resident. It’s like the same thing with the Portland trailblazers. No one wants to move to Portland.
Monty is coaching like we’re a Christian paul laden veteran team with hopes of conference finals.
Build winning HABITS then tge winning will come
🤦🏻♂️ We nabbed Killian over Haliburton. Then we took a mulligan and had to take Cade to make up for it when we should’ve traded down to Houston and got Mobley + Sengun. Ivey and Ausar…sure. Imagine Haliburton, Ivey, Ausar, Evan Mobley and Sengun for a starting 5. Instead of ill fitting pieces we have now. Trying to turn Stewart into Paul Milsap. Mind you, we were the last team to pass on Donovan Mitchell for Luke Kennard. We traded for a past his prime Blake when we could’ve kept Tobias and the draft pick that became SGA. And when we traded Brandon Knight for Brandon Jennings, for shiggles we threw in Khris Middleton. One boneheaded move after another.
They traded Bey for peanuts. 24 year old forward that could actually shoot and defend. Any proper team would fire their GM into the sun after that. Until they get a superstar in the draft they will keep being the worst team in the league.
He can shoot but watching him on the Hawks, I am not convinced he can defend.
Wizards vs Pistons might be the most sicko game of all time.
My Super Bowl, I’m genuinely so excited
Has Jaden Ivey done shit?
He only JUST got upgraded to starting over Killian Hayes lol
First it’s a 9 win pace, and it wouldn’t be a new record that way, so op decided it’s a 8 win pace.
Honestly, out of all the young players who have impressed me, Cade Cunningham is not it. I get that it was overall a so-so draft, but he has been very underwhelming.
I’m not saying that I want this to happen, but I’d be ecstatic to not be known as the “worst team of all time”
Lol rockets fans have their first good year since Harden left and immediately use it to shit on the pistons who they’ve been neck and neck with the last 3 years
OP is a clown. All he does is talk shit about the Pistons. He’s somehow convinced himself that we have some kind of blood rivalry with the Rockers
Gonna just ignore the shit talking you guys did Jalen.
Piston fans crying wolf when all they did was talk shit about a team in a similar position, despite being worse, is hilarious. This season couldn’t have started any better!
The only shit we ever talked was us laughing at Jalen Green for claiming he never wanted to come to Detroit because our night life sucks after he literally begged to be the #1 pick
We both know that’s not true. Just go to r/PovertyPistons to see the poorly aged takes & jokes made by Piston fans. Bottom tier core. Bottom tier rebuild. Bottom tier results.
I’m not going to your safe space sub full of your alts
No alts. Just people that think Gores is running a joke organization. Legit every rebuilding franchise has taken a step, except Detroit. You guys been rebuilding since Drummond 💀
Ya the Rockets were not relevant for 3 years. OMG. What a travesty. Not being relevant is a decade long type thing for Pistons.