I mean, it’s not even close at this point.
Chet is better. That’s why
They should give Co-ROTY to Sochan and Wemby, because Sochan being bad is the only reason Wemby even has a case right now.
Holmgren has continued to consistently play better.
Lol you are such a hater in all these rookie posts
Every single one lmao.
both are completely living up to the hype so far which is all that matters
Wemby is not “completely” living up to the hype
Because the hype was stupid.
I agree just saying, he has not lived up to being a day one all star
Wemby is still a player in the making. People didn’t realised last year was this first season he could really be offensivly relevant in the french league. Before that he was injured or to physically tender. He was not a first, a second or even a third option. I’m absolutly not surprised to see Chet as a more consistent shooter. But Wemby is a fast learner, he is very professionnal and he is in the right organization. He is not there to be rookie of year, he wants rings.
Great! All I was saying now for the third comment is Wemby is not a day one all star like Lebron or Duncan was
Definitly, he never was.
The hype was. Which was the whole point of the comment
you must be kidding , he’s avging 20 and 10 with 2/3 blocks a game and a near all defensive team level defense , his fg % isn’t great but it’s better than what lebron had at this point in his carreer , if you expect him to drop 25 a game with high efficiency you’re smoking crack
Those are good numbers back in 2005
these are good numbers for a rookie
Not for “best prospect since Lebron” though. That was the hype.
His hype was much higher than this. His hype was that he’d make the Spurs not suck ass, and that he’d do it as an all star level player
Holmgren also has SGA as a point guard to run the floor whereas Wemby has Sochan. Wemby is taking much harder shots as a result.
I thought Victor would have a much higher 3P%
Wemby has been raw his rookie season. He is not the instant All Star level player ppl thought he would be. Chet is though.
Chet is also not a traditional rookie, having one year of NBA experience under his belt from being drafted last year and not playing. The fact that this conversation is consistently being had is a testament to how good Wemby has been this year in just 16 games. Yeah he’s raw, but the talent is real.
Chet has the same amount of NBA experience going into this season as Wemby. None.
Thunder fans 🤝 Sixers fans in 2018
NBA game experience. He was employed by an NBA team last year.
Wemby is? I don’t think so. The hype was insane and he’s not really playing that great, not bad for a high pick rookie but a lot left to be desired wrt the generational commentary about him
wemby has not lived up to the hype lol people were saying he’s a Lebron level prospect, the best since Lebron and perhaps even more so. Yet I can remember many other rookie year performances since Lebron that have been better than what we’re currently getting from Wemby. His entire hype on offense is predicated on his shooting ability, and currently he’s been an absolutely horrendous outside shooter.
I mean, that hype was stupid considering his shooting splits in the European leagues. His hype should be completely based on his skill set and measurables. He has the potential to be an absolute stud if he can grow into his body with time. Anyone thinking he’d be the saving grace for the spurs in year 1 are smoking crack respectively
LeBron himself would not satisfy your own criteria there.
The hype for Wemby was ROY, All-Star and playoffs. He’s been fine, but def not living up to the hype. Especially WOJ telling us he’s the best prospect since Lebron every time he was on the TV.
Almost every piece of NBA content I listened to in the preseason had the Spurs as a bottom 3 team in the west.
If Wemby is just “fine” than 99.9% of rookies are terrible.
99.9% of rookies ARE terrible
Yes, but not terrible rookies. Wemby is an excellent rookie, especially for his age.
99.9% of rookies weren’t billed as the best prospect since LeBron.
And this is why Wemby needs to play like an All-Star on Day One? Because the media said so?
source on that first sentence?
Probably because he’s been miles better. More assertive, better shooting, better impact.
More mature and NBA ready.
Chet’s defense is what sets him apart for me, dude looks like a vet out there with his positioning
…and his shooting splits of 56-43-88 are pretty dynamite for any NBA star with decent usage, let alone a rookie.
Oh for sure, I just tend to have much lower expectations from lottery picks in terms of defense during their rookie seasons
It is kind of interesting that Vecenie is going “The Spurs are holding Wemby back” route rather than commenting on how the Spurs are playing around Wemby and Wemby is still growing into the NBA game.
Well if you’ve watched any of their games, you know that they are absolutely not playing around Wemby…
It’s so frustrating to watch spurs games bc I swear at least once per possession wemby has an open look and they just refuse to give it to him
Same shit with Cade!
Which part specifically did you disagree with? I think it’s kind of hard to argue that Wemby would look better with a real PG than he does with Sochan playing point. Vecenie doesn’t say that’s a bad decision long term for the Spurs. Only that it makes it harder for Wemby to perform this season because he has to create more himself
They want him to be a superstar as soon as possible. The idea is that he is good now and instead of being a normal rookie that needs time to grow. People want him to be allstar level out of the draft.
This is exactly what Veceni is pointing out.
He points out the offense with Wemby and Jones (the Spurs only real PG) is so much better than just Wemby.
That’s literally saying Wemby needs help right now to be apart of a non dog shit offense. If Wemby played more with a real PG maybe he could make it a closer race with Chet, but without one Chet is clearly RotY to him.
Narratives have always driven this entire story. Even people on this sub were trying to will him to being a top 10 player immediately, despite the evidence right in front of their faces. People’s ability to willingly live in delusion because of their feelings is a fundamental part of why the world is so shit right now, this is just one easily observable example of that
People are expecting him to be the next lebron james
Wemby is being held back by his shit team. He needs some help and also needs to put on some weight
This is going to be a fun matchup for years to come, I hope they can both stay healthy because I love seeing two giraffes go at one another
On a semi related note, if you haven’t seen actual giraffes fight, do yourself a favor and search that up. It’s absolutely brutal
Wemby and chet going to need to invest in some serious neck insurance
I showed my buddy this and he said “I’ve never seen giraffes fight before.”
You’re damn right we watched the whole video, that was awesome
Phrasing!
This is going to be a fun matchup for years to come, I hope they can both stay healthy because I love seeing two giraffes go at one another
I tell you why: When the Spurs play - all eyes on Wemby When OKC plays - all eyes on SGA
wemby’s shooting splits when wide open are still garbage.
Yeah but imagine he was wide open but had sga /s
Wemby wouldn’t put up the splits Chet does if he was playing Chets role
Because he’s better at every single part of basketball besides dunking?
Jdub was completely robbed last year
I know I’m a magic fan, but you’re wild. Paolo was one vote short of unanimous RoY
Which makes no sense look at the stats
Okay but why is Chet so ugly
Fits right in!
Your gay for looking another man’s looks
Rather be gay than a virgin like yo dumbass self
Some people are saying Chet is playing better than Wemby because he’s in a better situation. That’s true. But I seriously doubt there would be a 18 percent 3 point shooting dip and 12 percent field goal dip just because he would playing on the Spurs instead of Thunder. Chet is, at the moment, just a better shooter than Wemby period. Not trying to knock Wemby at all. He’s two years younger than Chet. I think he will be better eventually
seriously doubt there would be a 18 percent 3 point shooting dip and 12 percent field goal dip just because he would playing on the Spurs instead of Thunder.
Tell me you haven’t watched any Spurs games without telling me you haven’t watched any Spurs games. Wemby is constantly swarmed because no one on our starting 5 is a legit threat and we have absolutely no offensive system. The quality of looks Chet is getting playing with a guy like SGA is completely different. Wemby is putting up the numbers he is INSPITE of how awful the Spur are. Its a HUGE impact.
Here’s why? Bro we don’t need an explanation lmao
He’s definitely better. As he should be given a year of in depth theory and shot practice in the nba, not saying wemby couldnt have been coached to a similar degree in france but different leagues need different approaches. Let alone quality of teammates and their willingness to include you in the play.
It’ll never be a fair comparison, if wemby ends up #1 he deserved it/worked for it, given the extreme disadvantage he has.
It would be a cool metric to compare how many opportunities at buckets they make for themselves and others from nothing/without help.