• matt2fat14u@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    If you remember a few years ago they did this, and the viewership went down and everyone bitched. It was insane how many holding calls they were calling.

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      1 year ago

      Because holding is the most obnoxious penalty in football.

      Huge play just happened? nervously waiting 10 seconds to see if a holding call is coming

      10 yard penalty on first down? Drive is over. I remember reading that TDs were scored less than 5% of the time on drives where holding is called.

      We would get way more Steelers-Browns games if holding was called as often as it should. Different strokes for different folks, but I don’t want to watch 9-6 shithousery every week

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      1 year ago

      The only annoying thing about it now is how selective it is. Realistically almost every play could have a holding call, so they only call the ones that are obvious. I think everyone is okay with that, but the problem is that sometimes a less obvious one has a significant effect but doesn’t get called or a more obvious one has little to no effect and does get called.

      The solution definitely isn’t to just throw that shit every time they see it, because that would be most plays, but right now I feel like reffing has to be changed somehow because it’s been awful

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        1 year ago

        Your right, what makes it a hold vs what Doesn’t is the question . I think the nfl did indeed say just call the most egregious ones and that’s it makes sense from keeping everyone involved in the game bc I do remember when they were calling every play I stopped watching it. But your are right it needs to be more standardized in what’s dictates a hold and what doesn’t. Bc let’s be honest the defense wants a hold every snap lol

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          1 year ago

          The whole point of a penalty is to discourage it from happening in the first place. If they’re still doing it, the penalty needs to be increased. Hell, throw them out of the game after the second one.

          If teams can’t stop them without holding, letting them just do it isn’t a reasonable solution. Why would anyone invest a dime in elite pass rushers if they’re just going to be nerfed by the refs? Eventually you wouldn’t even need great o-lines anymore either, everyone’s just gonna grab the best holders.

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            1 year ago

            Ya but the nfl is an entertainment business. Therefor they want entertainment lol. So they aren’t going to call holding calls at huge amounts as they did years ago bc of the backlash. It is what it is.

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              1 year ago

              Sacks are entertaining. Watching your team being held over and over with no calls is not. Especially with the specter of games being fixed.

              They tried that and it didn’t work, but that doesn’t mean nothing with work. If they pull the players doing it, it will stop. Imagine having to ride it out with backups.

              Just look at the lower incidence of DPI in the NFL vs. NCAA. It’s a spot foul in the NFL vs 15 yards in cfb. And unsurprisingly, there’s more DPI in cfb. If the holding penalty was more severe, as well as being called as it’s seen, it would happen less. Even making it 15 yards instead of 10 would help.