At this point I have fewer problems with Wayland than I did with Xorg. Sure it’s not fully baked for everyone’s use case just yet, but for browsing, working and gaming it’s been great for me. I straight up forget I’m even on Wayland at times. It just works great out of the box!
And Plasma 6 is looking quite promising in that department too!
Yup. The main difference I see is my monitors with different refresh rates working properly. I had a couple bugs when I first switched for like a week (some weird rendering glitches), but not since (a few months now).
I’ll have to check out Plasma 6. I’m on GNOME because Plasma 5’s Wayland support was unstable (maybe that’s fixed too).
Same. Triple monitor has never been this smooth and not a clusterfuck. I can even (usually) unbind my second GPU (RX Vega 64) and pass it to my Windows and Mac VMs, shut down the VM and rebind the GPU on the host and the monitor pops right back in my desktop and I can play games on it, which gets displayed on my main monitor which is on my primary GPU (RX 570). And it mostly just fucking works.
Like sure okay I can’t disable vsync in my games, but since VRR also just works and my Vega 64 is aging anyway, it’s pretty nuts I can still do all of that. The Linux graphics stack is getting pretty darn impressive.
Yeah, I really don’t mind the vsync thing. I don’t push my GPU to its limits anyway, so I’m not going to miss a few frames here and there. Maybe that matters more for people who like competitive games, but for my mostly single player games, it’s completely fine.
I appreciate having proper refresh rates on my desktop far more than a few frames in games.
If you’re using it and it’s not even giving you enough trouble to check, then that’s a really good thing. If you use Gnome, you’re very likely to be using it as it’s been the default for a while on their side. KDE is also enabling it by default with Plasma 6.
It’s really awesome when it works well. It’s only a problem when it doesn’t but these days it’s rarer and rarer as the quirks are being ironed out. We’re even just about to get HDR.
rarer and rarer, but nevertheless super consistent on some setups. Wayland has never worked perfectly for me, using any compositor. I do have an nvidia card, and I couldn’t care less about all the finger pointing going on. Wayland used to be the future. Someone decided it should be the present, even though it’s not ready yet. I don’t care if it’s “getting better”. It’s ready when it allows me to do anything I used to, flawlessly
The future is now if you have Intel or AMD. Unfortunately NVIDIA users are lagging behind on that one. But that’s fine, that’s how stuff works. Even on Xorg land, when composition was first introduced, it was a mess. Most drivers didn’t support it well, it was buggy. I think NVIDIA was the least bad one at the time. Eventually some DEs started switching on compositing on and people were annoyed because it didn’t work for everyone. It was once one of the most common “help my graphics are weird since I updated”. But those for whom it worked enjoyed their desktop effects and finally catching up graphically with Mac and OSX. And now unless you run XFCE or some other super lightweird DEs, you’re using a compositor.
By all means keep using Xorg if it works better for you. That’s why both are still going to be available for the foreseeable future. No big transition work by switching everyone overnight and everything goes flawlessly. People need to use it for important features that are missing to be found, and solutions to those to be found.
Wayland is a POS :|
At this point I have fewer problems with Wayland than I did with Xorg. Sure it’s not fully baked for everyone’s use case just yet, but for browsing, working and gaming it’s been great for me. I straight up forget I’m even on Wayland at times. It just works great out of the box!
And Plasma 6 is looking quite promising in that department too!
Yup. The main difference I see is my monitors with different refresh rates working properly. I had a couple bugs when I first switched for like a week (some weird rendering glitches), but not since (a few months now).
I’ll have to check out Plasma 6. I’m on GNOME because Plasma 5’s Wayland support was unstable (maybe that’s fixed too).
Same. Triple monitor has never been this smooth and not a clusterfuck. I can even (usually) unbind my second GPU (RX Vega 64) and pass it to my Windows and Mac VMs, shut down the VM and rebind the GPU on the host and the monitor pops right back in my desktop and I can play games on it, which gets displayed on my main monitor which is on my primary GPU (RX 570). And it mostly just fucking works.
Like sure okay I can’t disable vsync in my games, but since VRR also just works and my Vega 64 is aging anyway, it’s pretty nuts I can still do all of that. The Linux graphics stack is getting pretty darn impressive.
Yeah, I really don’t mind the vsync thing. I don’t push my GPU to its limits anyway, so I’m not going to miss a few frames here and there. Maybe that matters more for people who like competitive games, but for my mostly single player games, it’s completely fine.
I appreciate having proper refresh rates on my desktop far more than a few frames in games.
So edgy.
Kicked the Linux Nerd hornets nest I see.
It’s great that it works for you. It doesn’t for me. Especially with some screen sharing, recording and reading/accessibility stuff…
I don’t even know what wayland is. I hope my system isn’t using it but I kind of don’t care enough to figure out how to check.
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/
Wayland used to be the future. Now it’s the present.
If you’re using it and it’s not even giving you enough trouble to check, then that’s a really good thing. If you use Gnome, you’re very likely to be using it as it’s been the default for a while on their side. KDE is also enabling it by default with Plasma 6.
It’s really awesome when it works well. It’s only a problem when it doesn’t but these days it’s rarer and rarer as the quirks are being ironed out. We’re even just about to get HDR.
Yeah, I haven’t had any issues in months, and I’m on a bleeding edge distro, so I’d assume my setup is more prone to bugs and whatnot.
rarer and rarer, but nevertheless super consistent on some setups. Wayland has never worked perfectly for me, using any compositor. I do have an nvidia card, and I couldn’t care less about all the finger pointing going on. Wayland used to be the future. Someone decided it should be the present, even though it’s not ready yet. I don’t care if it’s “getting better”. It’s ready when it allows me to do anything I used to, flawlessly
The future is now if you have Intel or AMD. Unfortunately NVIDIA users are lagging behind on that one. But that’s fine, that’s how stuff works. Even on Xorg land, when composition was first introduced, it was a mess. Most drivers didn’t support it well, it was buggy. I think NVIDIA was the least bad one at the time. Eventually some DEs started switching on compositing on and people were annoyed because it didn’t work for everyone. It was once one of the most common “help my graphics are weird since I updated”. But those for whom it worked enjoyed their desktop effects and finally catching up graphically with Mac and OSX. And now unless you run XFCE or some other super lightweird DEs, you’re using a compositor.
By all means keep using Xorg if it works better for you. That’s why both are still going to be available for the foreseeable future. No big transition work by switching everyone overnight and everything goes flawlessly. People need to use it for important features that are missing to be found, and solutions to those to be found.
You should probably hope it’s using it. People complain about it but it’s leaps and bounds better than what Xorg was.