The mail service has to be affordable (around 10 euros per year). Tuta was an option but their plans are somewhat overpriced for me. Anyone using their (Tuta) free plan? How is it?

  • Showroom7561@lemmy.caEnglish
    18·
    1 year ago

    I have two (paid) Mailbox.org accounts running for the last several years. No problem at all and they include several features that I use on a regular basis like email aliases (not just a + email, but unique emails), disposable email, contacts and calendar that I can easily sync to my phone, etc.

    One uses a custom domain name and the other is just a mailbox.org address.

    • governorkeagan@lemdro.idEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      I’ve not used Tuta but currently use Proton. What do you prefer from Tuta over Proton? Genuinely curious.

      • oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyzEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Tuta has a linux desktop app, and their android app is on fdroid and doesn’t depend on google play services. Plus they use green energy for their servers

        I was tired of proton because their linux vpn app is pretty awful, especially if you use iwd instead of networkmanager like me. Plus they don’t even support ipv6. So I was switching to mullvad vpn (which has great linux support and ipv6), and then for the price of just email tuta was cheaper and better on all the things I mentioned without any downsides (to me), so I switched.

      • frogmint@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I like having email separate from my VPN provider to avoid putting all my eggs in one basket

        I don’t currently use Proton VPN but have in the past and may in the future

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.caEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    It’s sad to me that the answer can’t be “the one you run yourself.”

    There’s theoretically no reason why everyone couldn’t run their own mail service who had a domain name. But with spam practices being what they are, self-hosted mail will get binned in most places.

  • Saki@monero.townEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago
    • Tuta (free): you can send only like 6 email per day. Otherwise, Tor-friendly. No onion. Support forum on Reddit 😞 Germany.
    • Posteo.de: 1 €/mo affordable. Nothing fancy. Support via PGP like that’s common sense. Germany. Non-crypto anonymous payments w/ various options (e.g. a prepaid CC): they don’t even ask your name (much less address, cell phone number).
    • Disroot.org: Free, pop/smtp, community-based, trusted even by the Tails team. w/ onion. Netherlands.
    • Cock.li: Free, pop/smtp etc. Very Tor-friendly w/ fast onion. It’s good if you think it like disposal. Irresponsible in a way (aka Freedom), but actually 10-year-old & stable. Romania.
    • Proton (free): bloated, very mixed opinions, yet better than Google. w/ onion (slow). Switzerland. A simple feature like Plain Text view is missing (HTML by default: not serious about privacy).
    • Saki@monero.townEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Don’t worry about e2ee: Even if you get the most expensive plan from e.g. Proton, it’s not e2ee unless both parties use Proton. There is a free, “easy” way to realize true e2e: OpenPGP in Thunderbird (convenient), GnuPG (more secure), etc.

      As for mailbox.org: I used it before but it showed Google reCaptcha, which was an obvious red flag:
      cf. [Security and GDPR Issue] ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for Login, every single time. #242

      Also, technical score of mailbox.org has been relatively low, not improving: https://internet.nl/mail/mailbox.org/1080449/ (Don’t worry too much about this score, though. It’s only technical; human factors (philosophies, trust, etc.) are more important when it comes to privacy.) This is not a recommendation. DYOR; ultimately, believe your own intuition.

      • Saki@monero.townEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Not a recommendation but I too trust Disroot pretty much. You can get a custom domain there without “buying a paid plan” once you make a donation. Would that be an option for you?

        Using multiple providers (having multiple accounts) is a good idea, though. Don’t put all the eggs in one basket. I’ve never heard the two providers you mentioned, so I can’t tell. If you can sign up anonymously via Tor, if they’re Google-free + not behind CF, and (most importantly) if you feel them “good” (subjective but gut feeling…), I think they’re usable.

        If their support use PGP, that’s a good sign too. (Proton even doesn’t share its pub key iirc.) If they also accept the privacy coin like Disroot and Tuta do, that’s nice too. Ultimately, though, believe your gut feeling, because everyone has different priorities, different threat models, etc.

  • mattreb@feddit.itEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    The main downside of Tuta free for me is that you can’t create filters for free. The main downside of proton free is that you can’t remove their signature…

  • PublicLewdness@burggit.moeEnglish
    1·
    8 months ago

    I am on a grandfathered Tuta plan that costs me about $2 CAD a month. I also pay for Proton’s premium plan. Both are worth it to me. I get that everybody has a budget but at the same time 10 Euros a year is a tight one when dealing with privacy friendly alternatives.