Two all time great regular season players known for their playoff shortcomings. Current achievements
Harden: 1x MVP, 10x All Star, 7x All NBA, 3x scoring champ, 2x assist leader
Embiid: 1x MVP, 6x All Star, 5x All NBA, 2x scoring champ, 3x All Defense
Embiid this season is on his way to winning his 3rd scoring title and matching Harden in that department. If he stays healthy he should surpass Harden in all star and all nba selections as well. I think he will be the higher one all time when it’s all said and done even without a ring
People here are showing the exact problem with this sub
Debating semantics like all nba teams votes
Harden led his teams to better records, better playoff finishes, almost beat the greatest team of all time in the playoffs and arguably had another mvp or two stolen from him.
Embiid doesn’t compare right now. He could by winning another mvp or having a great (and better than harden) playoff run
This idea that Harden deserved 3 or 4 MVPs has somehow become popular on this sub and is insane box score watching lol
You’d think that the top 3 peaks are MJ, LeBron, and Harden by the way people talk about it
Idk tbh, Harden had a solid argument all of the yesrs he came 2nd. Id give Steph 2015, but the reasoning for 2017 worked against Harden but when hes in the isame position was Westbrook in 2019 dragging a medicore roster while putting up even more absurd numbers than Westbrook did, he comes 2nd. I dont think he shouldve recieved 3 or 4 MVPs but I think.he was robbed one of the MVPs from in 2017 and 2019.