Pluralistic: “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing” (08 Dec 2023) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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The ability to change features, prices, and availability of things you’ve already paid for is a powerful temptation to corporations.

        • gapbetweenus@feddit.deEnglish
          144·
          11 months ago

          You seem to not understand what the word own means and the difference between material and not material goods.

            • gapbetweenus@feddit.deEnglish
              134·
              11 months ago

              I have a thing and than someone takes it away, so I can’t use it anymore. If somebody copies that thing - it’s not really theft.

              My point is more - concepts from physical world don’t nessessary apply to digital world.

              • ParsnipWitch@feddit.deEnglish
                42·
                11 months ago

                It just seems that what you are saying is that people shouldn’t be paid if their work doesn’t create something physical.

                • gapbetweenus@feddit.deEnglish
                  22·
                  11 months ago

                  Nope, that’s not what I’m saying. I just make a difference between copying, stealing, physical goods, digital goods and immaterial things. They are not the same.

                  Easy examples: original and copy does not really apply to digital works or two people on opposite sides of world can have the same thought but not have the same physical object at the same time, etc.

                  • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    11·
                    11 months ago

                    Please name for me something someone could create on a computer, that you would agree they should be paid for; even if they show a demonstration copy to someone.

                • TootGuitar@reddthat.comEnglish
                  52·
                  11 months ago

                  You say “ask the dictionary” — multiple dictionary definitions as well as Wikipedia say that theft requires the intent to deprive the original owner of the property in question, which obviously doesn’t apply to copyright infringement of digital works.

                  You say “ask the law” — copyright infringement is not stealing, they are literally two completely different statutes, at least in the US.

                  So, what the hell are you talking about? Copyright infringement is not theft.

        • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
          74·
          11 months ago

          I love how you guys play these mental gymnastics to justify this shit to yourselves.

          I love how you bootlickers always deny that anyone could possibly have a principled objection to modern intellectual property laws. I don’t need to “justify” at all. I rarely even pirate anything, but I don’t believe I’m doing anything wrong when I do.

        • aylex@lemm.eeEnglish
          11·
          11 months ago

          “Something you never would have dedicated as much time to if you couldn’t be compensated for it.”

          Just telling on yourself 😂

    • psud@aussie.zoneEnglish
      61·
      11 months ago

      Nah, if I stole their IP, they wouldn’t have it anymore

    • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
      61·
      11 months ago

      If no one thinks that, why are you saying it right now?

      Actual theft of intellectual property would involve somehow tricking the world into thinking you hold the copyright to something that someone else owns.