Title. “lmao internet points” and all, but what is the point of participating in a community that sees assumptions and other commonly non-harmful commentaries/posts as “bad” this easily? Do folks in here are really that needy of self-validation, even if it means seeking such from something completely insignificant like internet points? I mean, if I wanted to have a “stepping on eggs” experience with someone (i.e “one false step, and everything breaks apart”), I’d look for a random chick to meet in a bar.
That, or “we reddit now”.
One of the most common I downvote comments is including things like “Edit: why all the downvotes?” in topics that aren’t about the voting system (instinctually downvoted this topic, but un-downvoted), . But also just downvote things things are spammy, *phobic, defending genocides, etc.
So, what, people are only allowed to like your content? Can’t possibly be shit posts or anything like that, clearly it’s just all the downvoters who are wrong.
OR a downvote is as meaningful as an upvote, and it’s pretty childish to complain about them. (Especially considering that many instances don’t even count or display them)
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Beehaw is one, I think
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How come? I don’t have a stake in it, I’m just curious any time someone has a strong opinion on an instance, especially since I just joined .world and never looked back/around.
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There’s quite a few instances like that that aren’t self-isolated prestigious hellholes. Here’s a list:
- lemmy.blahaj.zone - LGBTQ themed instance
- pricefield.org - LGBTQ themed instance based on “Life is Strange” franchise
- Reddthat.com - A general purpose instance
- Lemmy.one - A small general purpose instance ⚠️ Warning, They aren’t maintained well and have gone down for months ⚠️
From what I can see the biggest things these instances have in common with Beehaw is that they support LGBTQ and they have downvotes disabled. So they’re not really that similar, closest one is blahaj.
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The ones that disable the downvote button definitely all share similar characteristics, for sure
why is misinterpret
also rude ._.
See? I didn’t consider your post harmful, but I did consider it worthy of a downvote, simply due to how I felt it contributed to the discussion.
And people who don’t feel like I’m contributing meaningfully can downvote my posts. Almost as if that was the point of the button, to give an indicator of how much readers liked or disliked the content.
Negative opinions are every bit as valid as positive ones. Even more so in a culture where criticism is considered “rude” and socially suppressed.
rude
is about word choice not criticism
It is criticism, and certainly from a subjective standpoint it’s very valid criticism
But I’m free to downvote criticism I don’t like or agree with 😁just like you’re free to downvote a comment you felt was rude, in addition to pointing that out. It would also mean something different if you didnt downvote but also commented that I was being rude.
Almost like the downvote was providing useful information
how about no being rude
where criticism is considered rude
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Downvotes? What are those?
Signed, a blahaj account.
Australian upvotes.
I had to give you a kiwi up vote for that one - well done
Oh no. A northern hemispherian tried to upvote this and pressed the wrong one.
“Do folks in here are really that needy of self-validation, even if it means seeking such from something completely insignificant like internet points?”
But… is that not exactly the description of somebody who complains about downvotes?? As said by others; they should be considered exactly as valid as upvotes. If you feel like they prohibit you from voicing an opinion, I personally feel like that is a you-problem. Ask yourself of the content you posted is crap, if you feel it is not, simply ignore the downvotes and move on, they are just pixels.
Edit: I checked your posts, most downvoted ones seem to be clickbaity or images that you posted to the linux community. This is not something that vibes with that type of community, I would have downvoted that too. The ones on your technical questions seem unjustified however. Posting a code snippet asking people to execute it… I think that crap should even have been deleted by mods.
But… is that not exactly the description of somebody who complains about downvotes??
There is “Stop downvoting me! You are making me saddie-waddie!” and there is “Why are you folks enjoying something so stupid and trivial?”. Which the latter is my point, and not a whine. (And yes, when a negative feedback is constructive and has a point to back up it = not a whine. And a whine = a simple emotional outburst.)
Mostly I downvote people who post screenshots of headlines or tweets instead of posting a link to the source. IMHO we need better moderators to delete that crap, but I do my part.
You should report them as well, downvoting doesn’t do anything to accelerate them being moderated, but reporting definitely does.
You need to be much less fragile, or life is going to be hard. Really hard . I say this because you seem like a good guy.
Wasn’t the rule for one of the more popular Usenet groups: rule 1. Don’t be annoying 2. Don’t be easily annoyed
Tbh, that’s a pretty great foundation for any interactions on the web.
I love those two rules, when taken together. Seems these days communities just pick one, and both are worse off for it.
I typically never downvote anyone. I’ll up upvote a post if it’s saying what I was already going to say.
I don’t even check vote counts, not my own nor others. I’m just here to share opinions, others and mine.
I couldn’t give a dime as to whether people up or downvote me.
I don’t think it’s a healthy system. And I agree, as Linux users we should support community and different opinions, not squash them. The disagreements can often lead to a better solution for all.
Same here. Does not make a difference, and it is amazing that people’s egos are hurt or happy about it somehow. But upvotes and downvotes is what drives all other social media: egos want more likes, more subscribes, more “friends”, they want that tribal approval. I find the fediverse to be less infected with FOMO. Drama doesn’t go long around here, doesn’t stick because there are no stupid algorithms feeding more FUD. I am starting to believe that this is where the top 1% of the social media hang out and chill. Here there are people that stick around for interesting conversations as opposed to “look at me”.
I expected this to be “another one of those” but actually from what my instance has about you, you were indeed correct. Gaming distros with exclusive features lmao.
IMO that’s some of the gamer logic bleeding over in the Linux side, now that Linux gaming is taking off. They’ll do anything including install dubious Linux distros barely hanging together with duct tape for a perceived extra 2 FPS. Download software exclusively distributed on Discord? Hell yeah. I’m sure at least one of them boots with
mitigations=off
and it’s not clearly indicated that it does.We’re seeing the same thing on the Windows side with modified Windows ISOs like the whole AtlasOS, that rightfully made some security experts sound the alarm. Some did things like completely strip off the updates, antivirus and firewall. Unless your system is exclusively running Steam and firewalled off the network, this is a certified bad idea.
I’d probably trust Nobara because the guy clearly knows his shit, but some of them really are just some other guy’s riced up Arch snapshot. They may give the impression everything just works at first but I’ve definitely seen examples of it falling apart. Even bigger distros like Pop_OS! had major snafus like the whole Steam uninstalls your DE thing, and Manjaro still fucks up something basic every now and then. I tried some of them in a VM and they didn’t even install or boot correctly. Oh my fault that one only works for NVIDIA graphics cards not AMD, my bad.
It’s not worth arguing, it’s a user base with vastly different goals than I do, just let them have their Bedrock Linux completely blow up in multi package manager hell and soon enough they’ll come running for a saner more reliable distro.
I just post what is true to me. Let people downvote. But yeah, lots of downvotes sometimes because some topics are just “we must all agree or else”.
Large instances are like reddit now, yes.
Heavily depends on the community. I see lots of communities with few down-votes happening. But it’s definitely a thing in -for example- the political/news ones.
Gonna guess it’s just a carry over from Reddit, Even if it doesn’t contribute anything to your account people will still do it because the option is there and it’s a habit they built.
Honestly not fully sure how the points system worked on Reddit either.
Not isolated to this community either. I’ve been noticing it in a few others as well. Kinda bothersome as it snuffs out posts worth climbing to more visibility. Not sure if voting is still visible on some end, but maybe someone will look into it and figure something out eventually.
Good on you for taking one for all, lol.
Unfortunately, this is a problem that can’t really be resolved. As long as there is a downvote button, it will always be viewed as a dislike button by some people (and I don’t know if removing it is a good alternative for such a large social network). It’s a problem that would eventually arrive here from Reddit as the community on the Fediverse grew.
There’s really nothing we can do about it.
True.
A case can be made for a large number of buttons. I wonder if the extra complications of multiple buttons would have a good payoff.
You’re on kbin though, which doesn’t federate downvotes.
I don’t ever go back and look at the votes.
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