• Rapidcreek@reddthat.comOP
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    11 months ago

    When they say kill jews they mean all, everywhere. They’ve even stated this to the press.

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        11 months ago

        Oh that’s all? Thank goodness forcible displacement using coercive threats on a civilian population isnt a war crime. I don’t understand why you are splitting hairs on the goals of this openly genocidal group. Supporting Palestinians doesn’t mean you have to go to bat for Hamas.

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          11 months ago

          Where do you see that I’m supporting them? I literally reiterated in many comments that what they want is a war crime. No need to invent some other objectives they are plenty awful enough.

          Truth matters, especially in conflicts like this.

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          11 months ago

          Actually resisting oppression and removing the oppressors from your land is indeed not a war crime.

          Just like how the Ukrainians have the right to expell the Russians colonizing Crimea.

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            11 months ago

            It really didn’t take much to get you in the mood to justify a targeted attack on civilians did it. I’m consistent in my view that it’s wrong to murder civilians, but it doesn’t seem like you are.

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              11 months ago

              Yeah just 75 years of brutal oppression and all forms of peaceful protests being massacred like the March to Return in 2018.

              Was Ukraine targeting civilians when they invaded Crimea too? Some Russian civilians sure died from it.

              Just forget all the propaganda you’ve been reading and look at the sheer numbers of miliary Vs civilian deaths.

              You’re really far gone down the IDF propaganda drain if you still believe Oct7 was just an attack on civilians.

              It was a targeted attack on IDF military bases and also hostage takings on the Kibbutzes nearby. Yes “civilians” were killed but the amount is low compared to the amount of soldiers. Furthermore the israeli “civilians” were extremely heavily armed.

              Those videos of Hamas throwing grenades inside shelters? IDF Soldiers were inside.

              If Hamas was going for civilian casualties they would have planned pushing in further and would have likely been able to kill at least 10k

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        11 months ago

        You really want me to give you recent quotes from their leaders? You want to look that stupid?

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          11 months ago

          Well yes ? How else would you want to do this. I just gave you an example of a senior Hamas officer saying kill all Jews and Hamas saying they do not agree.

          I have no doubt Hamas leadership is a bunch of genocidal maniacs but their official stance has been in the past the forceful displacement and nowadays it’s the return to pre 1967 borders. They are ready to admit to the existence of Israel, not by pleasure mind you, but their official stance nowadays is that they are partially open to a two state solution if the right to return is put in place.

          This might be a bunch of lies, but it is their official position.