The new federal dental insurance plan will be phased in gradually over 2024, with the first claims likely to be processed in May, government officials said ahead of a formal announcement scheduled for Monday morning.

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    Wow, I never thought this would actually pass. I was 100% expecting some bureaucratic fuckery to prevent it.

    Good job, NDP

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        They’ll get more votes but people are still going to vote strategically because what choice do they have.

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          which strategy overcomes giving people healthcare that actually covers their health?

          honest query, not sure how to read this response, and actually jealous because I’m an american (merikafuckyeah no healthcare and bang bang vroom vroom war war) who pays out the nose for dental and my kids’ braces are gonna cost bank even with ‘good coverage’. :(

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            Unfortunately much like America we have a system that punishes split votes with this is mind the question becomes less who do you want and more who do you really not want?

            Regardless this is great news and good on the NDP

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              I’m done voting strategically, once Trudeau broke his promise to end FPTP I gave it up and I’m never going back.

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            The strategy that avoids the entire system being dismantled. Imagine if there were five congressional representatives from a new Social Democracy Party. Because those five representatives are the deciding vote if it goes along party lines, they can apply pressure on the Democrats to pass healthcare reform. Hooray, everyone loves the Social Democracy Party.

            They might take a few more seats from the Democrats’ safe districts in the next election. But in a contentious district where the Republican candidate has a good chance of winning, if half the people who voted Democrat vote Social instead, the vote gets split and the Republican gets in. So many of those people, who want to vote Social, will realize that if they do, then healthcare gets completely gutted. So they hold their nose and vote for the Democrat.

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              The strategy that avoids the entire system being dismantled.

              struggling with this here too. hope people can overcome their slight discomforts in the face of actual fascism.

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      The NDP are the reason we have National Healthcare. It’s no surprise they’re behind National Dental Care as well.

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    Very happy it passed but 90k limit on household income seems rather low. I guess this is a much broader discussion but shouldnt it be based on average household income rather than cumulative since that scales with number of people where as a hard 90k number doesnt.

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      The 90k limit also helps keep the conservatives off their back vs 150k or everyone.

      It’ll give the program some time to show it actually saves money long term and then they can slowly expand it further with better data to back it up

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    starting with qualifying seniors over the age of 87

    Eligibility will gradually expand over the course of the year to include all qualifying seniors over the age of 65 by May 2024, then children under the age of 18 and people with disabilities by June.

    Wow, talk about a big “fuck you” to the taxpayers funding this insurance.

    What about working folks who can’t afford dental care?

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      Gotta start somewhere. Once the program exists, expanding it is much easier. Look at Obamacare. They fought tooth and nail against it, but once it’s in the Republicans tried as hard as they could to repeal it and it just never worked.

      It’s hard to take away entitlements once they exist, so the only future is really expanding it. Vision, dental and drug coverage are all on that path, it’s just a matter of time.

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        It’s hard to take away entitlements once they exist, so the only future is really expanding it.

        As an Ontarian lol. We used to have provincial eye care coverage. That’s been gone for decades now. Government can and will strip services as they see fit just need assholes in charge.

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          I didn’t say impossible, just difficult. I still say expanding it is better than not, even if it’s not perfect.

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    It’s…a start.

    Dental care needs to be free and universal. Need a filling? No charge. Make $370M a year and need a filling? Still no charge.

    Dental care, pharmacare, and eye care (at least!) are health care, period - and have to be available to all citizens who need them. Full stop.

    Any and every system that charges the consumer for basic health care is predatory and discriminatory; and needs to be destroyed. Not just dismantled, but destroyed.

    Health care is a basic human right.