U.S. auto safety regulators say they have taken the first step toward requiring devices in vehicles that prevent drunk or impaired driving.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced on Tuesday that it is starting the process to put a new federal safety standard in place requiring the technology in all new passenger vehicles.

Such devices were required in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law that was passed by Congress in 2021.

The agency says an advance notice of proposed rule making will help it gather information about the state of technology to detect impaired driving. The regulation would set standards for the devices once technology is mature, NHTSA said in a statement.

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    One item per bill.

    This didn’t have bipartisan support. This wasn’t debated. Neither you nor I had any representation whatsoever on this issue, it was proposed by an obscure lobby group and someone tacked it onto something that actually mattered.

    Who actually wants to buy a breathalyzer as a required option on a new car?

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    I’m seriously concerned about my car not starting or turning off while on driving. Think about that Maui wildfire, what if your bac was just over the limit? Do you deserve a death sentence because your car won’t start?

    And any system that can disable your car can be hacked or abused by the government.

    And what about “distracted driving?” Fool, I’m just looking out the windows?

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    I wonder what insiders are getting kickbacks for this.

    Each feature added to a car raises the price by more than it costs to add.

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      Me. I’m getting kickbacks. I’m gonna find investors to open up a school for people to learn how to build their own car from scratch!

      Fuck with me government!

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      "technology that would automatically test a driver’s breath for alcohol and stop a vehicle from moving if the driver is impaired. The driver wouldn’t have to blow into a tube, and a sensor would check the driver’s breath.

      Another company is working on light technology that could test for blood alcohol in a person’s finger, the group has said."

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        I like the idea of fewer drunk drivers on the road a great deal, but I’m not sure I’d trust auto companies to handle that kind of data responsibly

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        Meanwhile Mazda is claiming ownership of information about their customers’ sex lives!

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          New Mazda owner here. I wish I knew exactly what metric they were using to gather this info. I would make it think I was fucking EVERY time I start the car.

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      No it’s alcohol sensors on the steering wheel, like the scram bracelet.

      It’s about $2 in sensors and the technology is 80 years old. It can wired up as an on/off switch, it doesn’t require telephony

      The fact that it hasn’t been done already should be criminal in itself.

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        That’s what we need. A car that shuts off on the highway.

        Or people leaving their cars running while they go get hammered.

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          It can take continuous readings you know.

          And idk why it’d shut off on the highway. Don’t drink and drive. Just about everybody agrees that’s the move, I’m not alone in that sentiment.

          This is already tried and true, non invasive tech. It just takes skin on the wheel, throughout the entire drive.

          I don’t understand the push back, seriously. Enlighten me. I’m all ears.

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            False positives could be deadly, and bypassing it is trivial (duct tape). So it adds a little amount of risk for no real reward and slightly more cost.

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        I think we should just ban people from driving completely.

        Its free and people have been dying in vehicles for over 80 years. We can just stop selling cars, it doesn’t require telephony.

        The fact that driving hasn’t been banned already should be criminal in itself.

        /s

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          It’s a thought.

          Not a very helpful one but it is one option.

          Seriously, I can see commuters or shoppers being banned from driving downtown in big cities, and I don’t even think it’s a terrible idea. Have to stop at a park and ride and take a train or tram in. Which would allow the roads to be reduced to a single lane making room for public seating, food trucks, fountains/statues, stages, squares, greenery and other park features put in in the torn up lanes. Making it the kind of place people actually WANT to be in. Only have emergency services, delivery and tradesmen on the road.

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    Great intentions, but I’m a bit worried about how the non-contact breath detection will work, if you’re sober and giving your wasted friend(s) a ride home from the bar. BAC detection by touch might be better, if they can make it work that is.

    Seeing how cars with Super-cruise have eye tracking, why not roll impaired & distracted driving into one safety package.

    Eye tracking has become a reliable neuroscience tool for identifying the eye movements that are linked to impairments caused by alcohol use disorders. For example, a machine-learning model has been developed to detect alcohol intoxication based on a person’s eye gaze and eye closure. (From Google’s generated cliff notes)

    Disabling a vehicle if the driver isn’t looking at the road for x seconds might be a bit drastic. I could imagine e.g. muting the volume if not at the very least glancing at the road every 2~3 seconds. Would piss off a lot of people, then not long thereafter teach them to pay attention to where they are going.

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      I’m putting electric tape over any camera inside my house and vehicle. I’m glad my vehicle is older.