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      11 months ago

      Genetically Modified Skeptic intensifies

      I swear I just heard drew screaming from atop a building somewhere.

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      Probably, but I’d wager it’s a timesaving way to treat hypochondriacs.

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        And potentially lifesaving but it doesn’t address the core issue and makes a ton of profits for crooks instead of funding actual research

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        I think you’re confusing natural medicine with homeopathy. Homeopathy is straight nonsense, always.

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      Maybe but that would involve us trusting the government.

      I don’t think it should have ever been a crime to smoke a joint I also don’t think it should be a crime to eat a sugar cube that someone put three drops of water on it.

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        Legislators and regulators are targeting producers and not consumers.

        Would you rather trust companies driven entirely by profit over the government?

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          Legislators and regulators are targeting producers and not consumers.

          The same way the drug war was waged yes? How did that work for us?

          Would you rather trust companies driven entirely by profit over the government?

          False dilemma. Now are you willing to put down money right now that the government will never try to ban abortion pills? If you aren’t I must conclude that you are the one that doesn’t trust the government. You know the same government that fought a war against cannabis users for 9 decades.

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            Fucking Christ, and people ask why that shit should be forbidden???

            You’re so used to reading bullshit, arm length ingredients lists that the homeopathy industry’s bullshit “ingredients” list is ALL water and you don’t realize it.

            Each of the “30c” or above is PURE WATER. The whole bottle is pure water!

            At 4c the average distribution of announced ingredients to water is 10 parts per billion of “active” molecules. At 12c you get an average of 0.6 molecule per litter.you most likely have way less than a hundred molecules per billion. That’s pure water.

            I’m not saying that it doesn’t work – I’m saying that instead of paying idk what price for it you could just use distilled or even tap water and get the same results, and not fund a bunch of absolute crooks.

            Source

            Edit: oh and each of the “active” ingredients is not actually active. It’s just a bunch of pseudoscientific bullshit that have been given the chance, thousands of times, to prove its efficiency, and NEVER managed to. Not explaining how they would somehow do it, no, just prove that what they’re offering is in any way better than placebo. They’ve always been entirely incapable of proving it.

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            Notice the ‘c’ and ‘x’ designations after each ingredient. Those aren’t standard amounts like ml or mg, they designate the amounts of dilution: x means 10 and c means 100. The number is also not an amount, but the number of succussions, which means the times it was shaken before the next dilution.

            So 6c means the ingredient was diluted 6:1, shaken, then diluted 6:1 again and shaken again, 100 times.

            Homeopathy is the belief that water has memory, and you can activate that memory by diluting an ingredient with water, shaking it, then diluting it again and shaking tens or hundreds of times. By the end of the process, there should be nearly zero molecules of the active ingredient left, but the water will ‘remember’ the ingredients that are now gone.

            I’m sorry to say none of the ingredients in the list on that label are actually in that product.

            eta: Also, the ingredients are chosen because they cause a symptom the user is experiencing, not because they help cure or lessen a symptom. So they may include pepper for a cold because pepper makes you sneeze, not because it helps with sneezing. This they call ‘like cures like’. So many ingredients in the list will be ineffective, harmful, or fatal if any amount was still in there.

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    I work in a lab that often tests these types of things. I can tell you with certainty: STAY THE FUCK AWAY! DO NOT USE!

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        The people in charge of testing for contamination have no idea what they are doing. I have a limited view of this, but from what I’ve seen they don’t know what they need to test for. They don’t have proper procedures in place of they get a positive test. Lastly they don’t seem to have proper monitoring of their facilities to begin with.

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        It’s both because homeopathic remedies are pretty much useless and the people that make them have no business being anywhere near things people put in their bodies.

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    I read it wrong,

    Every homophobic eye drop should be pulled off the market

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      I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one.

      I was all ready to be upset at eyedrop manufacturers for being homophobic and now I’m upset at them for a whole different reason. Very destabilizing.

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    Its easy to call out homeopathic medicine as frauds stealing from fools. Same with chiropractors and anti-vaxers. But what we need to acknowledge that the adversarial, inaccessible, rapacious, and Kafkaesque medical systems in Western countries, especially America alienate people and drive them toward this crap.

    Mistrust of pharma, hospitals, doctors, and the health department is not irrational.

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    Much as I like Arstechnica, this was one of the worse articles I’ve read there in a while. It’s based off of this bullitin.

    The author seems to have taken this:

    Do not use ophthalmic products that:

    • Are marketed as OTC products to treat serious eye conditions such as glaucoma, cataracts, retinopathy or macular degeneration. There > are no OTC treatments for these conditions.
    • Are labeled as homeopathic, as these products should not be marketed.

    And then the author seemed to imply that ALL eye drops are homeopathic and should be pulled, which is not quite what the FDA was saying.

    edit: I hit post before I had finished typing when I had intended to hit preview to check my markdown. edit: And then I missed the typos anyhow. Screw it. Send it.

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      Are you sure? Neither title nor article appear to suggest such a thing.

      After referencing previous scary eye drop news:

      No one should ever use any homeopathic ophthalmic products, and every single such product should be pulled off the market.
      The point is unexpected, given that none of the high-profile infections and recalls this year involved homeopathic products.

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    Hear me out, I like Similasan eye drops because they’re just saline with an alternative preservative. The flower magic stories are just for fun. My eyes like their saline blend best x_x

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      Plz check back in when you go blind from some whack ass contaminant in your unregulated eyedrops made by crazy and/or cynical people who may or may not believe in germ theory.