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      13 days ago

      Who else is supposed to do something about the USA? Surely nobody here wants a full on war? So change HAS to come from within.

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          Yeah, being realistic here, no country on earth can successfully invade the US. Change from within is pretty much the only option. If the American people are fine with the currently state of affairs then not much the rest of the world can do.

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            13 days ago

            Most of them aren’t fine with the status quo, but they’re too poor and distracted to really do anything. We’re really good at the whole bread and circus thing.

            The ones with money and means are too busy making more money than they ever have in their entire lives to care.

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              Not just poor or distracted… Is a fascist state, fear and police control are real. You want to accidentally be mistaken for an immigrant and sent to Honduras? How about jail for 5 years for throwing a firecracker at a protest because it’s “terrorism”?

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            If no country on earth can invade the US and the US has already been protesting and demonstraing at record turnout what exactly do you expect citizens to be able to do that a financed and organized military cannot?

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            13 days ago

            Italy was also part of the Axis powers, there was a lot of external pressure on that country by the Allies. There is none on the USA. Also hasn’t there been three assassination attempts on Trump ‘from within’, Id hardly say he hasn’t gotten lucky.

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      Exactly. While I think Americans should be doing more to pressure the few elected officials that may care, some key points are constantly glossed over. We have the largest military in the world (by a factor of like 10x), we have the highest prisoner population on earth and one of the highest per capita, we have the number one propaganda operation on earth and it has been running wildly for longer than most of us have been alive, our government was specifically set up to marginalize our voices, and our vast geography make it incredibly easy to discount/hard to mobilize the populace.

      You don’t hear people saying the Chinese citizenry need to step up when their govt commits atrocities. And before anyone brings up either Tiananmen Square or the Buddhist monk who self immolated- we haven’t had the tank scene play out but we have had people self-immolate in front of the White House. And it was just as effective as the demonstrations in China—in that it wasn’t effective.