The question has been framed in the streets: is a government that impoverishes healthcare and nutrition, flouts the law, enriches its officials, imprisons babies, and kills its citizens worth the money it collects, much less the respect and obedience it demands?
Democrats have nothing to lose by shutting down the government to force the majority party to respond to these questions and the one that looms over all: what, if any, is the political and moral future of the US?
The Untied States needs to just start over from scratch
At the very least the DNC needs to go, that is a non-negotiable truth at this point.
Specially the RNC branch of the DNC. Specially important to not allow people with repeated last names or family ties to be president. There’s plenty of last names that haven’t had a turn at being president. Also we need a woman president and quick!
The Democrats faux concerned the air traffic controllers not working and not being paid, to kowtow to the Republicans in the last shutdown. The Dems had its members “break rank” who happened to be politicians, whose election won’t be coming soon or are retiring. The Democrats will pull the same manipulative tactics. They won’t be in this game for so long if they are not that devious.
But the Democrats insist that it wasn’t working, so naturally we have to let the fascist murdering Republicans do whatever the fuck they want!
- Shut down the US government.
- Each state puts forth a new constitution elevating themselves to country status.
- Form a new North American Union (like the EU) with Canada as Daddy
- ???
- Profit
Each state puts forth a new constitution elevating themselves to country status.
I hope my state can successfully wage war against every state to the south of it.
My state is completely surrounded by enemies.
While my theory is based on various sci-fi so should be taken with a mine of salt, my guess is that USA will split into three different countries: NUSA (lol Cyberpunk) which will comprise of the original 13 colony states and the upper North East, The California Republic which will essentially be the West and NW and in good relations with NUSA but with different legislature, and the South which might be called anything from Texas, New Texas, Republic of Texas, or New Louisiana Territory, which will essentially be a war-torn area full of religious extremists not unlike Middle-Eastern areas after the West had their way with them. It will be full of forever wars by religious factions funded by the MIC shareholders of various other countries but in the public face it’ll be covered by the media as religious extremism and/or patriotic fanaticism while ignoring the material reality and history of the situation.
In the American Civil War the North had the advantage in Navy, population, wealth, and industrial power.
Now those advantages in population and industrial capacity are flipped. In the scenario you project the south could devolve into infighting and hollow out, but a single charismatic figure could unite them, and that would pose a terrible threat to the NEUSA and the Cali Republic. Have you read Rurtledove’s American Front?
It really depends on what type of war this hypothetical civil war would be, and who would be included in each side. North Dakota has nukes, is in the North, but also is very conservative. Opposite scenario for New Mexico
Realistically, a conventional war isn’t possible these days. In digital warfare, tech hubs like NYC, DC, Cali, and Washington become the most important locations
I have not read that, no. I have heard of the series before though.
Does the South really have those things flipped? Does the South really have more of a population that the East and West coasts combined? More land area sure, but aren’t they currently at the economic mercy of the East and West coasts?
2 would mostly only happen in red states. The rest mostly know how to cooperate.
And you know that California doesn’t need Canada, even less when you consider the rest of the US west coast in with it.
Canada doesn’t want to babysit you guys. Seriously, every time a yankee doodle dipshit proposes Canada to take over some US states, it just sounds like immature fuckups who don’t want to take responsibility for yourself and move out of your parent’s basement.
Lmao 🤣
I’m American and nobody is leaving anything here dude, haha. They’re all delusional.
Damn you right you should show us how it’s done then
What percent of new countries declare all people with brown skin are slaves?
We really should’ve abolished that.
Some states have proven that, without federal intervention, they cannot effectively govern themselves. Texas, for instance…
Texas would last long enough to be dangerous to it’s neighbors. I would not want to be in New Mexico if federal power breaks down.
And Mexico as Madre?
Claudia Sheinbaum is pretty cute. I’m in.
Probably better to form an analogy to the old European Coal and Steel Community rather than to jump directly into an EU equivalent, also bring Mexico in since without the US being a thing they’ll end up with the largest population on the continent.
I’m not smart politics, but I figured it’d be more complicated than a meme outline.
Prolly. Doesn’t mean I shouldn’t point out viability, fate has a strange way of twisting and if it so decides I would rather have the idea spread than for it to not. Who knows perhaps someone will read my comment and spread it further or be in a position to enact.
I could get behind that.
This traitor isn’t coming to save us.
If you don’t feel like your representatives are adequately representing you (God knows I don’t), this is a good time to find a primary candidate to support (monetarily or with your time) - or even file to run yourself. Every house representative is up for reelection in November.
Everywhere could be better off without a government, not just the US.
Shut it the fuck down until the weasels in the GOP actually have their arm twisted to engage with empathy. I’d be personally affected by a shutdown, but it’s a sacrifice I’d make for a long time if it means any kind of progress against the fucking fascist pedophile protectors in office.
No taxation without representation. We know Trump/ Elon / Putin hacked the election. This is NOT the will of the American people. Cut them off of our tax dollars. They want small government so bad, see what they can do without revenue from blue cities/ states.
To do that, we’ll need to split off from the federal banks.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
Didn’t Schumer already cave? Or did I misread a headline?
IIRC, he’s starting negotiations in the middle and is eager to give up even more.
Man, I wish Democrats were the heartless, scheming, cut-throat, socialist maniacs that I was told they were growing up in a Republican household…
The country would be in much better shape if it were true…
Here’s the thing, they are, possibly even better than republicans, they’re taking the same corporate pro israel bribe money, they just didn’t also align themselves with the insane neo Nazis, Christian terrorists, and loudmouth idiots.
You forgot the part where I said “socialist.” I don’t want them to be heartless and scheming if they’re not doing it for socialist reforms.
You are correct, I did in fact miss that. Shouldn’t be trying to be thoughtful while I’m in bed trying to sleep 😅
And hell yeah, the only reform is socialist reform. It’s unfortunate that the party is almost all corpo Dems, definitely needs more push from the left
Put in simple terms, Republicans are the sword. Democrats are the shield.
Amen
My pet rock can run things better than Trump is doing.
Propaganda from “liberal” media trying to calm you down. Fight.
every country is better off with no government
than the ones they haveIs this post about Obama?
