An example of how inauthentic social media can be. LBC is a major news outlet in the UK, and they posted a video with the title “Ex-MI6 Spy insists Epstein was a Russian spy and blackmailing Trump”. The actual video, though, was an LBC presenter interviewing UK Housing Secretary Steve Reed about an urban regeneration program. Literally nothing to do with Epstein or Russia anywhere in the video, save for the presenter asking about the appointments of a UK politician exposed in the files at the end. Every single comment, though? Deflecting from Russia towards Israel.
To be clear I do not doubt Israel’s involvement. I think it’s silly to argue that other countries can’t also be involved, but that too is besides the point. My point is more how clearly absolutely none of these comments are from a person that watched the video. The unfortunate reality is that real people do engage with these comments, despite the reputation that youtube comments deservedly have, and they will have no idea that said comments have been flooded by inauthentic activity well before any humans got there.
I’m not surprised, but I don’t think I’ve ever stumbled across quite such a blatant example before
The original video has been taken down now and Wayback doesn’t seem to have caught it, but here is the link in case anyone knows something they can do with that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY4bBbwndQc
Who tf dreads anything other than the clickbait title?
Go read a book nerd.
Is there a Lemmy community for posts like this showcasing the “dead-internet” ?
Who cares? How do you even know that people didn’t watch the video?
More importantly, since the video has no evidence of russian involvement and since there is overwhelming evidence of zionist involvement, people are correct to point out that the title and description are misleading.
Why are you mad at people defending reality instead of this shitty fake video
Deflecting
The russians are the deflection. Unlike russians, zios are allllll over the reports.
Have you seen anything about the reports at all?
Who cares? How do you even know that people didn’t watch the video?
Because if they had watched it, they would know that it was not actually about Epstein or Russia
Have you seen anything about the reports at all?
I literally wrote “I do not doubt Israel’s involvement. I think it’s silly to argue that other countries can’t also be involved” in this post
That is a great honey pot for detecting bots.
The best way I’ve been able to explain it:
Whatever country behind it all that holds all the blackmail, is likely the country that no other country ever openly criticizes or ever holds accountable for anything.
And that’s not Russia, governments shit talk Russia and sanction important high ranking members of their government all the time.
In comparison, Israel acts and is treated exactly like a country that has blackmail on everyone else
And they have a very clear motive to put the blame on Russia.
To me, that’s a valid enough reason for why so many people find the idea that Russia orchestrated it all ridiculous.
Whether it was Russia or Israel really isn’t the point here
If you’re only complaint was people just read headlines…
That’s literally why headlines were invented.
But I think in this specific case, it makes sense that people who could tell it’s bullshit just from the title commented without watching it.
That’s a very human thing and has always happened. If you think it’s new you just never noticed it.
Quick edit:
To quote Tommy Boy:
I can get a pretty good look at a t-bone by sticking my head up a cows ass, but I’d rather take the butchers word for it.
Headlines were invented to get attention for a story, not to replace it. Otherwise, nobody would bother to write an article (or in this case conduct an interview) under the headline
The actual video has the MI6 guy bring up Israel’s involvement as well. If these were actual people making assumptions off of headlines, they would never have found out
But no, I don’t think that every single commenter is an actual person who just made an assumption, commented, and left without even pressing play on the video
Edit: almost every single commenter. Shout out to the one talking about Trump shitting himself instead. Still should have pressed play, but at least it was funny
Might not have been a mistake in only one direction
As in LBC posted the wrong video intentionally?
Not necessarily intentionally, and not necessarily first. They may have uploaded the right video first, comments accumulated, then had to make an edit or change, then incidentally uploaded the wrong video when a technician misclicked. There are plenty of banal explanations with no need to resort to superfluous conspiratorial conjecture.
superfluous conspiratorial conjecture
Isn’t it pretty much established fact at this point that a large proportion of comments online are now from bots? Maybe this explanation isn’t ‘banal’ but that doesn’t make it farther from the edge of occam’s razor than the other options you’re proposing.
Maybe people are upset at an obviously phony title and description. The fact that the video doesn’t exist just makes it that much more phony.
The real video does exist, LBC just uploaded the wrong one. They corrected it in a matter of hours. Here’s the actual one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRVezF5-hk
The interview with the housing secretary was also re-uploaded with the correct title and description
If that was the case, would they not just put the correct video back instead of taking it down altogether and uploading the correct one separately? I don’t know if you actually can replace the video file on a youtube upload. I know there are some limited editing tools that can be used to cut a segment out, but that wouldn’t explain this
Where is the “actual video” exactly? Why is this phony video even up?
Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRVezF5-hk
Edit: apologies for the double reply, I didn’t notice that it was you asking both times. I’ve left more details in the other one
