Age verification for all.
  • mcv@lemmy.zip
    7·
    9 hours ago

    I’m not against age restrictions, but letting every site brew their own method is a really bad idea. I’m not going to upload my legal ID to every random site; that’s a recipe for identity theft, and it’s a really bad idea to teach people that that’s normal or acceptable.

    And age guessing through facial recognition is incredibly unreliable. My 16 year old son has already been accepted as 18+ somewhere. I had a full moustache at 14. Others are blessed with a babyface well into their 30s.

    The only right way to do this, is if governments provide their citizens with an eID that any site can ask “is this person 18+?” and get an accurate answer without any other identifiable info. And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.

    But instead everybody’s got to cobble together their own improvised system that we just have to trust blindly is not going to sell our data.

    • M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de
      2·
      3 hours ago

      And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.

      Actually, no on the fly communication with the issuer is required for selective disclose. You just need a signed document with individually salted hashes of different properties and you can create a zero knowledge proof non-interactively. Zero knowledge meaning that truely nothing but the disclosed property (age > 18, County == DE, or whatever) is communicated to anyone.

      Theres a lot of other cool stuff that can be done with zero knowledge digital identity wallets. You could for example hash your pubkey together with the service providers pk and disclose that as a per service ID, but not reveal your pk. This allows linkability within one service (as a login method for example) while preventing cross service linkability.

    • Matt@lemmy.ml
      1·
      4 hours ago

      Fractal is not multiplatform (i.e. isn’t available on Android and on iOS) and Matrix can be confusing to people not already familiar with it.

      And no, a wall of text explaining what Matrix is won’t help since most of Discord’s users are teenagers with a very short attention span that don’t read much (unless they’re forced to by school).

      Potential solution, may be controversial.

      Just add a vertical video with Minecraft parkour or with CS surf on the bottom and a half naked woman from a freelance platform explaining what it is.

      There are also Element and SchildiChat as alternative clients.

    • Matt@lemmy.ml
      1·
      3 hours ago

      The same as Discord (IRC with a fancy GUI) but with the fact your data is unconsentionally sent to an intelligence agency for analysis.

  • SpaceCrystal@lemmy.ml
    24·
    1 day ago

    Yeah, you go ahead & do that, & watch how many people will jump ship to other alternatives while you lose a lot of money & subscriptions, especially when you’ve been hacked before.

    People have found other alternatives to TikTok, & they’ll do the same with Discord.

      • PleasantPeasant@lemmygrad.ml
        4·
        18 hours ago

        teamspeak 4 felt like it was in the stone age while discord had a bunch of cool ass features for chatting outside of voice. it also was much more appealing to casuals by being free to use and super easy to set up your own server, whereas setting up your own teamspeak server involved portforwarding and whatnot that turns off the vast majority of “normies”

      • intoner@lemmygrad.ml
        2·
        18 hours ago

        We left it mostly because there were better services out there + the UI was considered outdated and all. But personally, I’d rather take the outdated UI than have my data stolen.

  • RotatingParts@lemmy.mlEnglish
    54·
    1 day ago

    I hope for once people would get together and drop Discord so that Discord would have to reverse this policy. So often, we the customers really have the power if we get together and act together. All these social networks are nothing without the contributions of the customers.

    • harsh3466@lemmy.ml
      171·
      1 day ago

      without the contributions of the customers

      Without the contributions of the product.

      As the adage goes, if you’re not paying for it (and often even when you are), you’re not the customer.

  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.socialEnglish
    69·
    1 day ago

    I’m never doing this. I’ll pay someone else to verify my account before I upload my dox with these assholes.

    I’m fine switching to an alternative, but I have seen no gaming companies linking anything else for their official “forums”