It is often echoed that mathematicians make excellent software engineers, and that their logic-adjacent work will translate efficiently into coding and designing.

I have found this to be almost universally untrue. I might even say the inverse is true.

While I and many of my peers have capacity to navigate the mathematical world, it certainly is not what sets us (at least me) apart when designing clever algorithms and software tricks.

Point being: I dont think the property/trait that makes good programmers is mathematical literacy.

I would love to hear what others experience is regarding this.

  • onlinepersona@programming.devEnglish
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    9 months ago

    I definitely concur. Scientists often write functional but abominable code that follow no style-guide, no conventions, no rules, just “get’er dun” mentality. Short obfuscated variable names, enormous functions, no comments, no build instructions, no tests, no edge case handling, no modules, no separation of concerns, etc.

    They often write the most job secure code on the planet.

    I get it, it’s because they come from a world of f(h) = g(h) + i(h) -> assoc = 1 or whatever. Maths, physics, biology, computer science, etc. all have the most obtuse, unvarnished, terse expressions ever. They aren’t teachers (most professors have no didactic training whatsoever), nor do they write stuff that has to be understood by anybody outside of their field.
    Especially if people from that field become researchers, only their results and number of papers for their peers count. They spend most of their time getting grant money and under pressure to release something that passes peer review.
    Their entire system is more about money than actually expanding our realm of understanding and they are caught up inside of that.

    IMO, the most dangerous specimens to exit that system are mathematicians as they believe maths is the purest form of science (everything is maths after all), that they are smart, logical, and can solve anything. They treat software development as a practical application of their formulas and, in my experience, see it as beneath them to follow rules they consider superficial.
    Code doesn’t have to readable, it has to be correct, functional, and at best pure. It’s why functional languages, especially Haskell, attract them so much. There are those of course who just want something that works and feel like they’re in the rat race of research.

    That’s been my experience anyway with making code written by scientific minds production-ready (tested, maintainable, documented, functional, extendable). It’s a task I actually do wish upon my worst enemies because I want them to suffer like I did.

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