• u_tamtam@programming.dev
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      6 days ago

      No mobile app, single provider and no federation to ensure a healthy and sustainable ecosystem of service providers…hell no. Can’t we learn a thing from all this? Which is that centralisation just leads to the same endless cycle of capture and exploitation? XMPP and federated protocols stand to correct that, and now is the right time to shift the paradigm.

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        5 days ago

        I agree that decentralizing is the solution. But there is no use having a decentralized system that no one cares to use. If the normies can’t get down with it then its no use. I’m going to give xmpp a go, but my guess is that it will not be normie-friendly.

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          5 days ago

          I stand to disagree about the non normie-friendly qualifier here. My entire family has been daily driving Conversations in place of WhatsApp for more than a decade now. Gajim on Windows just works. Bridging large rooms with IRC is a better experience with Biboumi+Gajim than any previous GUI+Bouncer combo I’ve used before and became the preferred way for new inbounds at my local club where IRC is a must. The pace of improvement is good and steady and there isn’t anything major missing.

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      9 days ago

      Fluxer is very untested and also run by a single commercial company (afaik). It looks promising, but I would not recommend it right now, maybe in a few years once it becomes clear where this is heading.

      If you want a less techy people friendly app then there is https://movim.eu/ that works quite well and is proven tech based on XMPP.