Why is everything to do with this story completely unsurprising.
Because we’ve all come to accept that Elon Musk doesn’t know how to run a social media site?
He knows how to run a social media site into the ground…
Which is probably the whole point. Make it seem like the site is failing because of mismanagement, and not that its failure was intended right from the start with a leveraged buyout saddling the business with an untenable $13bn of debt.
No, he’s just dumb!
Yup, it’s easy to forget that an important use of Twitter used to be finding out what was happening when propaganda was covering it up. It’s how we learned about Arab spring.
If my life were at risk from my government, I certainly wouldn’t trust Elon to keep me safe from them.
The Arab Spring is exactly one if the reasons Musk took over the site. That, and Peter Thiel’s (Musk’s old partner from PayPal) failed attempts at setting up a rival service.
They couldn’t rope Twitter into line, they couldn’t make a competing service, so instead they saddled Twitter with $13bn of debt so that it would die (or step into line if they felt like paying off the debt).
It’s the same way Toys R Us went under.
Musk’s antics over the last few months have been nothing but a distraction. The very purchase itself was a death sentence.
I don’t know that he does.
We’re still hearing about twitter and people are still using it.
I think what we’re learning is that social media has more inertia than we might have thought, and it’s actually incredibly difficult to kill it. This is a very bad thing as it allows someone like Musk to deeply alt-rightify what is fundamentally a public resource in private hands, but people will keep using it because…? I couldn’t tell you why really, and I think most of us that have adopted lemmy are by nature not likely to really understand it.
Musk is a proponent of near-absolute free speech
Anything goes, so long as it doesn’t hurt his feelings personally
As long as you don’t use the term cisgender :)
Freedom, by Musk… a cologne that’s actually mace with directions to the local old folks home and instructions on how to use InShot.
People are also not allowed to say the word "cisgender” over there
Woah dude, cool it with the c-bombs.
It’s okay, I gave them a c-word pass.
Or when an authoritarian government asks him to block literally anything
“TikTok copycat”
You know, way way back in the pre-Elon days, they had another one. I think it was called Vine?
Yeah, and it closed because they weren’t making money on it. Turns out all you needed was a few years for server costs to go down.
Elon wanted a worse version of 4chan, Elon gets a worse version of 4chan…
Does he? Is that even possible?
4chan doesn’t fuck with animal abusers. They fuck their lives up and doxx them.
4chan posts plenty of animal abuse videos because they think it’s funny to make people watch them accidentally
The fediverse is looking like the objective best alternative, more so day by day.
One day the far right has to realize we’re here, and they’ll pile in to hurl abuse etc. When that happens I’ll be looking for instances that moderate and defederate them away. I didn’t realize how much that stuff got me down until I came here from reddit and found people having reasonable conversations, just like in the old days. It’s a rare thing to find on today’s internet.
All social media is filled with animal cruelty.
There’s so many pictures and videos of cut up animal corpses with people going “yum” in the comments…Yes there’s no difference between a picture of a steak and fries on a plate, and a kitten being tortured then burned alive. Absolutely the same thing.
Not to vegans, they’re clinically insane.
Whoa - I’ve been reading this discussion and I went to look at what community it federated from, and I was really surprised to find it was Beehaw. I think this discussion has gotten very heated on both sides (which I understand, I’m vegan myself), but name calling doesn’t move the conversation forward. I notice you’re coming from kbin.social too - this is just a gentle reminder from a fellow kbin visitor to keep Beehaw’s community guidelines in mind as you’re visiting, and participate in debate with respect. I love the content and community here, and I would hate for our instance to be defederated from Beehaw because we’re not practicing awareness of the community we’re participating in and their guidelines.
Why is it better to kill a cow for profit/taste?
Both scenarios are needless killing of animals which is obviously terrible abuse.
Is caring about animal abuse insane?
Ah well, I am not big on veganism so I’ve no comment on this topic further.
Whoa - I’ve been reading this discussion and I went to look at what community it federated from, and I was really surprised to find it was Beehaw. I’m sorry you are encountering this here, but I notice that it’s largely not Beehaw users who are continuing interactions that do not meaningfully engage in this conversation. I think this discussion has gotten very heated on both sides (which I understand, I’m vegan myself). I notice you’re coming from kbin.social too - this is just a gentle reminder from a fellow kbin visitor to keep Beehaw’s community guidelines in mind as you’re visiting, and participate in debate with respect. Although you make awesome points, they aren’t being heard right now, except by folks in Beehaw, since they have community guidelines that promote this type of discussion in a respectful manner. It may be better to call this off and restart the conversation in our instance, or choose to respond only to folks who are practicing respectful debate.
Please don’t take the downvotes seriously, especially in Beehaw. Beehaw has downvotes disabled, so what we’re effectively having here is a kbin conversation following kbin rules in Beehaw. If you want to engage with folks who are downvoting you, I think it’s best to do that in our instance or elsewhere to be respectful of Beehaw’s guidelines.
I love the content and community here, and I would hate for our instance to be defederated from Beehaw because we’re not practicing awareness of the community we’re participating in.
They’re both clearly abuse, the steak used to be a living being who was tortured and killed for profit/taste.
Why are you people downvoting me? Do you think steaks don’t come from cows who are killed?
Don’t play dumb, people are downvoting you because you pretend that seeing a picture of a steak evokes the same feelings as seeing a video of a kitten being tortured to death.
For people who aren’t hypocritical or suffering from cognitive dissonance, it is kind of the same. Sure it’s somewhat different, it’s just the after picture of torture and not active torture. There’s a reason laws prevent videotaping inside slaughterhouses. Cause it would turn off so. many. people. “How the sausage is made” is a phrase for a reason. Having statistically increased suicide rates in the industry speaks volumes.
A steak is literally the cut up corpse of a cow
Right. And do you have the same emotional response when seeing a picture of a steak and when seeing a video of a kitten being tortured and then burned alive?
Both are obviously terrible but at least people agree when it’s a kitten getting abused, when it’s a cow people are cheering it on which is terrible to witness.
you forgot the /s unless you mean you find slaughterhouses videos on a regular basis
Found the Vegan…
Yes, I care about animal cruelty, I thought that was what this thread is about?
I don’t use Tiktok but I gather that this is a big problem over there as well, so it sounds like Twitter is working just as well as the site it’s riffing off.
I don’t either but my understanding from other feedback, and from the article linked, is that no, it’s not a problem there. More accurate algorithm and proper moderation.
it’s not a problem there
It is, because my wife is an avid Tok user and complains about it, and reports it, frequently. She also says there are many animal videos that are “unsettling” but not outright abuse.
What kinda goofy response was this from Musk? AYO!
Try not to link if you can, just screenshot or copy text. Don’t need to drive any traffic to that pit of despair.
Expected from someone who responds with the 💩 emoji
I actually didn’t find much wrong with that, that was funny. But this here is a completely inappropriate response
It might be a funny way to set up your personal email account you only share with your friends, but it’s a wildly unprofessional thing to do with the PR department’s autoreply
Here’s a non-twitter alternative to see the tweet without interacting with twitter (just replace
twitter.comwithnitter.net) https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1673116176757694465
Many reported being alarmed by a stream of graphic videos they encountered while scrolling through the feed, including videos showing gun violence, police brutality, physical altercations and vaccine misinformation.
So it’s working as intended?
Of course Elon would.
Steve “spez” Huffman calls the feature “visionary” and jokes that he wishes some protesting Reddit moderators be featured in the videos.
System is working as intended… I guess then huh Elon?
As for the free speech claims. I guess it’s code for Elon doesn’t want to pay people to moderate the content.
Except where the word “cisgender” is used, then he brings in the last employee that knows how to work the only machine left in the office with a working version of the software for modding content, while him, Ronnie, and other top members of the Reich look over his shoulder.
Only use it via browser and wasn’t even aware of such feature nor do I care. These short videos are a rabbit hole I don’t want to explore because there’s no coming back
