A new COVID vaccine is due out next month, but health experts and analysts say it is likely to be coolly received even as hospitalizations from "Eris", a variant of the Omicron form of the coronavirus, rise around the country.
I’m of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses.
It just is now. We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don’t see the point for COVID.
Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this. But also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth. If only they bothered to actually read what I wrote.
1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don’t necessarily die to it any more doesn’t mean it “poses no issues”.
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn’t suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that’s the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn’t kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
COVID used up all of my sick time when I had it earlier this year because I was out for a week. It gave me symptoms that are still ongoing. I can’t get a full night’s sleep because I wake up coughing every night. That’s “really bad sniffles” to you?
Hey look, it’s one of those “This doesn’t affect me, so why should I give a shit?” types! With enough training, they evolve into “Why didn’t anyone warn me??!?” types.
COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it’s just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they’ll effect people and spread. So it’s not really a concern, it’s just get your flu jab this year.
Whereas we’re still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.
Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it’s good to keep people in the know.
I’m thankful it’s still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I’m glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I’d been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.
And then there’s long COVID, we don’t get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I’ve felt worse since getting it.
So it’s not just as easy as saying but the flu. They’re two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there’s still stuff being written about it, be thankful it’s being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that’s akin to flu.
Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasn’t acceptable before this covid, still not now.
We do; I see them every year. Whether I’m travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don’t get paid sick leave), knowing what is “out there” is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there’s usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.
Oh, I don’t agree with that. There’s no news release for new flu strains or new flu vaccines (there’s new ones every year, you know. It’s not a once a decade thing)
Do you actually believe it doesn’t need to hit ‘at this level’ because people would be just as informed if it wasn’t? Or do you just not want to see it anymore.
The NHS here is always sending out press releases to the population to remind those that are vulnerable to get their seasonal vaccines (inclusive of flue, and COVID).
There is information out there about new flu mutations and flu shots, but with those applicable going for yearly vaccinations it really is irrelevant.
So, to go back to my original point, which people seem so adamant on willfully misreading so that they can have something to be outraged about, it’s not news worthy on the scale these articles want to suggest that they are.
There are countless things that change or develop that various different subsections of society need to know about.
if you really truly believe that any information about new flu viruses gets to “the population” then i’m sorry, you are very very very very very very very wrong.
I know what your original point was, i don’t care. my point was countering it with “we should have more exposure of health impacting news”, you just think that it’s not needed because you think that the NHS is delivering this information to “the population”, which again, is very very very very very very very wrong.
I don’t think you deserve the downvoting. I do think it’s semi-newsworthy but you’re right that people really don’t care anymore. We aren’t going to mask back up, most people won’t get vaccinated, much like the flu, shots are going to be available but just not common. Your overall sentiment is echoing most peoples so I think it’s entirely valid despite what the internet justice warriors think
I’m of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses. It just is now. We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don’t see the point for COVID.
Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this. But also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth. If only they bothered to actually read what I wrote.
“Some of you may die, but that’s a risk I’m willing to take” – @fluke@lemmy.world
With the ability to leap that far you should consider the Olympics.
1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
Being the 4th leading cause of death in 2022 is far from “posing no issues”
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don’t necessarily die to it any more doesn’t mean it “poses no issues”.
I don’t think anyone is saying it doesn’t pose an issue with 6%, they are saying it does pose and issue for the other 94%.
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn’t suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that’s the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn’t kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
Why is death your only metric?
There is a metric for sniffles?
So the only two possibilities for COVID are “sniffles” and “death?” No other possibilities?
Really bad sniffles? It’s not anything to worry about anymore. Nature will do it’s thing and the human population moves on.
COVID used up all of my sick time when I had it earlier this year because I was out for a week. It gave me symptoms that are still ongoing. I can’t get a full night’s sleep because I wake up coughing every night. That’s “really bad sniffles” to you?
You’re an idiot. A neighbor down the road just died of it last week. 45 years old with a 6 year old little girl. Fuck you.
Hey look, it’s one of those “This doesn’t affect me, so why should I give a shit?” types! With enough training, they evolve into “Why didn’t anyone warn me??!?” types.
COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it’s just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they’ll effect people and spread. So it’s not really a concern, it’s just get your flu jab this year.
Whereas we’re still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.
Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it’s good to keep people in the know.
I’m thankful it’s still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I’m glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I’d been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.
And then there’s long COVID, we don’t get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I’ve felt worse since getting it.
So it’s not just as easy as saying but the flu. They’re two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there’s still stuff being written about it, be thankful it’s being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that’s akin to flu.
Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasn’t acceptable before this covid, still not now.
we should. you should be made aware of new things that can affect your health and well-being. we would all do better if we were informed.
We do; I see them every year. Whether I’m travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don’t get paid sick leave), knowing what is “out there” is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there’s usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.
But we do though. And we are informed. Just like there are news releases when there’s a new flu strain, or vaccine or anything.
What I said was specifically ‘at this level’. It doesn’t need to hit the top headlines for the day.
Oh, I don’t agree with that. There’s no news release for new flu strains or new flu vaccines (there’s new ones every year, you know. It’s not a once a decade thing)
Do you actually believe it doesn’t need to hit ‘at this level’ because people would be just as informed if it wasn’t? Or do you just not want to see it anymore.
The NHS here is always sending out press releases to the population to remind those that are vulnerable to get their seasonal vaccines (inclusive of flue, and COVID).
There is information out there about new flu mutations and flu shots, but with those applicable going for yearly vaccinations it really is irrelevant.
So, to go back to my original point, which people seem so adamant on willfully misreading so that they can have something to be outraged about, it’s not news worthy on the scale these articles want to suggest that they are. There are countless things that change or develop that various different subsections of society need to know about.
if you really truly believe that any information about new flu viruses gets to “the population” then i’m sorry, you are very very very very very very very wrong.
I know what your original point was, i don’t care. my point was countering it with “we should have more exposure of health impacting news”, you just think that it’s not needed because you think that the NHS is delivering this information to “the population”, which again, is very very very very very very very wrong.
Just because something isn’t reported on everyday doesn’t mean it isn’t important
I don’t think you deserve the downvoting. I do think it’s semi-newsworthy but you’re right that people really don’t care anymore. We aren’t going to mask back up, most people won’t get vaccinated, much like the flu, shots are going to be available but just not common. Your overall sentiment is echoing most peoples so I think it’s entirely valid despite what the internet justice warriors think
reagebaiters get a block
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