!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.
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Lemmy.world has released an official response.
To be honest, it’s not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.
I just wish this wasn’t done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.
Keep it up db0, a lot of us across the fediverse appreciate what you’ve built!
Don’t need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.
One of the most popular instance. This is why federation is necessary and people should create accounts in different servers instead of pulling everyone to one server calling it tge “official” or “main” server
At least they blocked a community and not the entire instance. This is how these things should be handled, imo
Yeah, they fell for the fucking troll. Excuse my french.
So beehaw was right whey they defederated from .world, there is shadiness there…
PS: this is one of the best communities in the fediverse, good job.
Beehaw’s reasons for defederation were completely unrelated to what’s happening now. They didn’t want the general public to have access to their “safe” community.
There’s nothing shady here, just kneejerk and protectionist.
Beehaw defederated because they they decided they didn’t want to actually moderate their communities. Easier to just screen everyone before letting them join, to weed out people they may potentially disagree with. Ostensibly to filter out hate but only a fool thinks it stops there.
Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It’s also one of the most recommended Lemmy’s with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world
I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.
I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I’m reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.
We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.
There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.
I wanna say connect could do it for a while now. It’ll certainly come to many clients
I believe Memmy has a filter for communities and instances.
it does, but its broken. the list resets every time you close the app. At least on the full release current build
Yep, I agree. Yet another reason I just spun up my own instance and use that.
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Yes one in the same. Thought about moving the forum to lemmy but there’s so much history there
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I can’t believe EverQuest is still around, lol. Blows my mind
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I’m curious as to what you’d need(other than a server) to spin oneupp
Some time and tinkering.
It’s quite straightforward (especially if you don’t use nginx or need email) to use the docker install.
So you need a Linux box (IDK about windows) a fix IP with a port routed to your machine and some free time. Oh yeah a domain name pointing to said IP.
That’s good to know, thanks! Would love to try that some day
It’s definitely achievable and I’d encourage anyone to play around with self hosting.
The main thing to acknowledge before getting started is that it’s an ongoing commitment, like a puppy. Getting it to work initially is the easy part, you can follow a guide and have something working in a few hours of effort. Running in to problems later on is the tricky part, automated backups and upgrades et cetera, something needs a re-start, things just stop working for some reason.
Ah yeah, I can imagine it’s not a one and done thing, you’d have to do a lot of support with your server, can see it being a massive time sink
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same account name (different instance) is also posting transphobia on https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nomoretroons
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Its been deleted now, but that person has successfully trolled every lemmy.world user and is obviously full of hate and intolerance.
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The goal is to get people reactionary about it so it’s good to recognize and completely ignore them, not even a downvote.
@Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee joined 8 hours ago.
I think lemmy.world gather the kind of redditors that like sanitized world views, the power of decentralization makes us choose an instance without those hot garbaje takes as lemmy.world.
100% spot on. I got called all sorts of names for pointing this out, but maybe my own fault for pointing it out on one of their posts! 😅
I started on lemmy.world because it was the most popular server at the time and I didn’t really understand how the fediverse worked. I spent the first month sort of just learning to stop trying to think like I was on reddit. The federation feels to me like pirate TV/ ham radio, people broadcasting their visions and worldviews while rebroadcasting other stations/nodes. Each instance, has it’s own “feel”. I see the entire instance I’m on as a greater solarpunk community, which is filled with smaller, related communities of people all sharing their own interests.
This is a memory of how the Internet was first envisioned by many people, before the corporate takeover. I am interested in FOSS, I am interested in “piracy”, I am interested in any exchange of knowledge that helps us work together, spread skills, and empower communities, both virtual and on the ground.
But all that aside, lemmy.world is just too unreliable for it to be my entrypoint into the fediverse. Which is why I looked around and found a place that feels more in line with my own sense of hopefulness for the future.
They should have shut down registrations a long time before they gained such a majority of users.
They stand behind the lie that “if we didn’t let people in, they wouldn’t know where to go”… as if it’s so hard to create a new registration page that re-routes people to other instances.
I’ll never understand the selfishness of people like that. They know they’re actively hurting all of lemmy, but they want to keep all the users to themselves. This thing only works if it’s a collection of smaller instances.
Let the garbage go there
A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.
I did it the moment they decided not to defederate from Meta. I don’t like admins who can’t take decisive actions to protect their users (and apparently seem to bend their knees to any big corpo out there)
@tron @Madbrad200 >Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views.
welcome to the fedi, first day here? :guraKekw:
This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don’t like for whatever silly reason they can’t reveal to the public.
Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.
Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.
If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.
enshitification
You’re already misusing our cool new word. Cut it out.
Too many people don’t know what it actually means.
The enshittification of the word enshittification has started
en-enshittification?
re-enshittification?
ren-shittification?
enshitificaception
No. It is enshitification. Do not @ me.
Have you read the definition? It’s a platform reducing the quality of services to increase profit. Nothing about this is to increase profit.
You are 120% wrong and it IS enshitification.
I am using the actual definition. Saying you are x percent wrong isn’t an arguement. You’re just making yourself look bad.
This is Doctorow’s made up word.
All words are made up
If you are 200% wrong, are you right?
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I guess, someone with a copyright background came knocking at their door. It’s one thing to defend against a lawsuit if you are a big for-profit company with a well-funded law department and a nice financial buffer. But it’s an entirely different thing if you are hosting a non-profit platform with your own money because you are a nice guy.
Tbh, I am negatively surprised how many people don’t understand that the person hosting a lemmy instance is someone who does it as a hobby and not a big corporation.
The good thing about Lemmy: if you don’t like an instance or it’s admin, you can just host one yourself. You just need a Pi or an old laptop and a few hours of time. Did you try that?
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Or music.
Better off renting it so I can get some publicities mixed in in the list … :-/
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Suggestion: account on small instance, communities on large ones
This is the way
I suppose that works. I got a ton of accounts at this point now.
Why communities on large ones, doesn’t that achieve centralization of the content?
Well, not if the communities are distributed across several large instances, no?
Small istances don’t have the resources to host large communities
Good point, when it comes to large communities it does make sense
Only correction I offer is accounts, on small instances. Not just one on one instance.
Don’t worry you don’t need ten accounts, you will always be able to make a new one, should the need arise
Turns out beehaw is more based than world.
Nah. It’s a walled garden, you should know better than to trust those by now.
Beehaw is trash (and so are people who say based)…
Be nice as a main rule? Fuck you, this is the internet. I don’t like most of you and I think you should know it.
They use discord to announce these changes? Wtf?
Because their shit instance can’t keep up for a minute.
Clearly their shit just doesn’t work.
And just like that I learned about a Steam Deck piracy community.
Something something Streisand Effect.
TBF it doesn’t seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I’ve still moved on to another instance.
This 100%
I don’t know why people are making this dramatic, this was absolutely a functional and pragmatic decision.
A transphobic troll got spanked and then retaliated with that post and the .world admins were stupid enough to blindly follow the directions of an alt-right turd.
Just saying.
Not just transphobic but racist as well and going by the posted pebbleyeet memes probably also fascist. Sad that the lemmy.world admins took the bait especially after dealing with constant ddos themselves for kicking off their own trolls
It’s comedy how wishy washy they are on not federating with Meta despite bunch of their users saying they hate Facebook and Zuck but are convinced to defederate from us by a single post from such a suspicious account.
Just because that’s the post we see doesn’t mean there isn’t more to this.
Realistically, I can see other instances doing this eventually as well.
I just saw the same user on the star trek instance, accusing them of being into ‘nerd shit’
It’s doubtful they posted to .world with genuine concerns. They just seem like an agent of chaos.
‘nerd shit’
On Star Trek? Imagine that! (I’ve been nerding over there, off and on, all day) 🤣
Incidentally, when I looked up that user earlier in the day, they account was 8 hours old.
Source for this person being transphobic? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t know where this is coming from…
About 5 shitty memes that are now deleted, that’s what this post is in response to in the first place.
And the fact that I can see this means sh.itjust.works hasn’t, yey
neither has lemdro.id!
Nor lemm.ee. And hopefully that won’t change.
Hopefully it doesn’t change for reddthat.com as well.
same for pawb.social
Coincidentally I just made a lemm.ee account today
Hi Lemm.ee. Bye lemmy.world.
I’ll tell ya a couple of three things, my estimation of Lemmy.world as a general-purpose instance just fucking plummeted.
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wow it’s almost like having a huge chunk of lemmy’s users in one instance is a bad thing. who would’ve thought.
seriously though more people should migrate to smaller instances.
It makes me wonder if and when we’ll see clients that also act as single-user instances.
I think this is better tbh, I personally don’t like it when piracy forums/sites/whatever piracy related thing goes too mainstream. Maybe it’s gatekeeping, I don’t know, I just don’t want another Z-Library incident.
Either way, they probably aren’t even against piracy, they’re probably just lazy and don’t want to deal with any of the issues they could potentially face down the line.
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ZLibrary never went down fully. There were always ways to access it.
i honestly think the z-library incident was a one-off because it was spread by colleen hoover fans on tiktok so i’m hoping that it won’t happen again… but maybe that’s just wishful thinking :/
Lemmy.world is dogshit. It feels like a nanny instance or like a reddit 2.0. Idk why people keep joining that bullshit instead of spreading out.
I’m so happy that I joined a small instance that hasn’t defederated or been defederated from anyone
Go be a shepherd and encourage people to move elsewhere
Well it got me to move, so something is working.
Me too. I just found hexbear.net. Much better.
What’s hexbear?
Not much, what’s hex with you? 🤣
I think it is an instance full of evangelical leftists?
Gross and they replied to my comment. I need a shower now.
No thank you
No evangelism of any kind–rather dirtbag leftism. Chapo Trap House is defined on Wikipedia. They’ve been around for a while. They’ve got podcasts. They write books. They’re smart, well-informed, and take no prisoners. They’re also comradely toward honest, curious newcomers. If one were, say, proudly liberal and sure in their understanding of history and politics, it probably wouldn’t be a good fit.
Chapo Trap House lemmy.
That’s what I’m doing. 2 people already said they’re gonna switch!
Honestly I don’t think I want to join that server but I’m glad I don’t have to. They’re far too political out of the gate I just want a piracy focused community that unredacts that part of the internet
Hmmm, your chosen instance interests me
Haha. Nice name. Simple. Elegant. I like it.
Idk why people keep joining that bullshit instead of spreading out.
Probably because they don’t understand how federation works. People are used to signing up for centralised services, so when they come to Lemmy because of a reddit post where someone said “I just signed up at lemmy.world, it’s great” and then they install an app and lemmy.world is the first instance listed, they just blindly assume that is the official/main instance that they should start with.
Hello all. First post here. Moved over from lemmy.world because of this.
I joined as well. New to Lemmy. Never even heard of dbzer0 until that post. There have been a few complaints of .world degenerating other communities as well. Streisand effect.
It’s not really a Streisand effect, because .world doesn’t give a shit if you go to those places or not - they just don’t want the liability of you doing it from their instance.
Arrrr
Its fair enough. They gotta protect their ass.
I just logged into a user made on this instance. Problem solved. And lemmy.world has had a ton of downtime anyway. Always trouble loading comments and often trouble loading posts
Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?
I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.
Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.
