• NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I never had an issue with YT’s 1-2 skipable ads at the beginning, or even the banner ad. But they got greedy.

    The midrolls and the unskipable ads was the trigger point for me.

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      10 months ago

      I was fine with even having a couple very short unskippable ads every other video. Now it is all of them with one in the middle of videos longer than 5 minutes. And then of course the content creator has to put in an ad because YouTube does not pay shit for views.

    • Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      I mean, they didn’t get greedy, as far as everyone knows they are losing a ton of money (at least if you can extrapolate anytbing from the fact that twitch is massively unprofitable)

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        10 months ago

        Pretty sure YouTube has already been declared to be profitable. But frankly I’m pretty suspicious of claims of unprofitability for services being run for over a decade. Why would any for-profit company bankroll them if it wasn’t worth it? There has to be some creative accounting going on.

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          10 months ago

          Doubt it, if it was profitable, they would be announcing that to everyone as loud as they could. Besides, if twitch is unprofitable, I doubt that google is in a much better situation

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            10 months ago

            I wouldn’t apply Twitch’s situation to YouTube, IF it’s even true, because YouTube got a much wider reach and more advertising possibilities than gaming and somewhat related audiences.

            It doesn’t seem to me a given that they’d boast about their success either. Because if they hide the situation the way they do, they can do this, turn to the customers saying “Welp, I guess this much is not enough. Gotta put more ads on it and raise prices 🤷”. It’s easier to placate the users if they are convinced it is inevitable. I imagine you are considering of what investors might think if products are said to be unprofitable, but overall Google/Alphabet still gets tens of billions in clean profits every year.

            Most of all, again, if this is such a money sink that in over a decade they couldn’t figure out how to make money of it, why would they still keep at it? Why wouldn’t they sell it off or close it? If I assume they are honest about unprofitability, as much as I doubt it, then they must be getting something else from it that is equally valuable as raw money. Maybe it’s user data. Maybe it’s the social clout of controlling a major media platform. But it has to be worth it to them or they wouldn’t be hosting it. It wouldn’t make sense.

            But personally I just think they are lying about unprofitability, including Twitch. It’s just a convenient excuse for layoffs and price hikes. It’s not like they are going to show everyone their full balance sheets.

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        10 months ago

        That was the initially when YouTube was created. Everyone knows that Google has no problem cancelling anything that’s not profitable.

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          10 months ago

          If it was profitable, then why did google stop posting the financial statistics for YouTube

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Yeah and I wouldn’t even mind like 5 minutes of ads at the beginning compared to randomly dispersed in the middle

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 months ago

        Oh sure, let me watch 5 MINUTES before watching a 7min clip.
        Dedicated 5min are only marginally justified if the content is >60 minutes in length.