I had doubts.
Then the article quotes Cameron saying as much in an interview.
Yah. Should give her a couple hundred grand.More
Nah. She didn’t actually do anything. The end result doesn’t even much look like her. Looks more like Zoe Saldana. Being the “inspiration” isn’t worth that much. Something for sure, but not a massive payday.
For a billion dollar film? It’s worth a few million
What about setting a precedent that would deter people from stealing others’ likenesses in the future? A few hundred grand isn’t going to stop wealthy corpos - that’s a slap on the wrist. If we set the bar low now, they’ll just do it again and assume any payments are part of the cost of business. It’d be the same way they get away with other injustices that result in relatively minor fines.
OK then.
Real stupid of him.
Wouldn’t have seen a resemblance between this beatiful woman and this:
She’s not blue
Yes, open that can of worms!
The same happened to me. In the end I had to show my naked bum in court, but the makers of JD Vance had more funds and hence slicker lawyers.
This feels like the sort of blurry case that litigation is actually well suited for. It’s clear there was something beyond an inspiration board, yet the end result is also a blue alien. Evaluate the law, establish a value for the design, and make your case. In typical James Cameron fashion, there’s a sense of “I mean well, so I can’t possibly be an insufferable jackass!”
I can see an ideal way this could have gone, like we could have someone with authority like Cameron say: “hey fanbase: this person is the face that inspired the design for the character we made – because we did not mete out an agreement in advance it is now up to the courts to determine how to monetarily compensate her for her contribution to the work.”
I’m not an artist, but I would like to be, I am interested in preserving what I will call the “chain of inspiration” in making something. What inspired you to create this thing?, what works did you copy from and how did you translate them into your own work? I think this is instructive for people who want to make art… but when it comes to for-profit projects like a hollywood film it’d be a huge expense that studios will fight against.
Hmm, I always figured having brain storm boards for character concepts was always a thing, and that these start with real “stolen” images. It seems like this goes above that but her likeness was just a starting point, it’s not like you can tell it’s her from the final concept.
I love seeing Disney get sued though.
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If you found out that your specific facial features as a kid were used in some of the highest grossing films of all time, without your permission, you really wouldn’t be upset and expect some compensation?
Doesn’t matter if you personally don’t think they look alike.
How important is it to you that it was one of the highest grossing films of all time ?
How would you feel about it if the movie was a failure?Seems pretty freaking important, given how residuals work?
Yes that changes the amount of money she would get, but I meant how important is it in regards to her rights being abused?
Seems pretty important to me.
How so ?
More money made means more people saw it?
The economic angle is already obvious, but even if we leave that aside: the more people see a film, the more people will see her likeness used without her consent.
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there’s also the issue of her being an indigenous girl/woman and a rich white man taking something valuable from her and using it for his own gains
plus his personal admission that she’s the face of neytiri is kind of extremely creepy in a “somebody took off their court-mandated gps tracker” way
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Oh hi James. You’re doing the antisrmite thing
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You’re doing the antisemite thing.
