Red Hat stops all upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd (hadess.net)
What you are referring to as Red Hat is in fact IBM/Red Hat, or as I’ve recently come to calling it, IBM + Red Hat
I really hope journalists stop called IBM Red Hat. Red Hat is dead.
“Red Hat” (IBM)
What do you get when you merge a company with IBM?
IBM.
You get what you fuckin deserve!
Annoying commercials about “the cloud” and some robot they built 30 years ago.
this is bad
Thanks for linking the actual article!
Honestly, they just keep lowering the value paying them brings. Execs barely want to pay them in the first place, why would I as the engineer or IT solutioner care about putting money towards support if they keep abandoning projects…
For non-gnome-users none of that matters. Only thing I ever touched from that was upower, but not even using that.
Hope that backfire on IBM.
Yes, it will but so slowly and further down the road, nobody at IBM will see the connection. When Fedora (or desktop Linux in general) will be slightly less appealing to people who in 10 years will become the decision makers at IT departments, it’ll weaken the position of Linux and in turn the commercial support providers.
Guess, everyone who does not yet own a Steam Deck needs to get one because Valve seems to be the biggest commercial proponent of consumer GNU/Linux.
Farewell, Red Hat. Thanks for all your good work throughout the years. Sucks you sold out to IBM
These kind of changes are absolutely infuriating, and what’s even worse, is that there’s nothing we can do about it
and what’s even worse, is that there’s nothing we can do about it
Look I know it’s much easier said than done, but you can choose to walk away from IBM and Red Hat over this. If these changes start to lose money, they’ll respond. Otherwise they’ll see how much abuse their customers are willing to put up with and start doubling down.
Do you mean that Fedora users should question if they want to keep using this distro? Because I do use Fedora, and I understand I’m “beta-testing” an enterprise product, but yeah, for me this changes my “relationship” with Red Hat. Or what do you mean?
I just don’t want folks thinking they’re trapped, because that’s when a vendor will really start putting the screws to you.
Well, Fedora and Gnome were embraced and extended by IBM.
You know what’s next now.
Yep, Ubuntu will fork all of these, then trash them, introduce their alternatives, then drop support in 5 years.
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This was my thought exactly. Work is a RHEL shop and I had settled on Fedora after distro hopping. Ubuntu was for the new guys getting into Linux.
My self hosted services were all CentOS and more recently Rocky/Alma. After the shenanigans RH pulled to make their source harder to obtain, I’m working through my personal ansible scripts to get up on Debain. I’ll never go back to RHEL or the forks.
Fedora is freaking amazing. Fresh & stable software, super clean UI, huge community…
Debian has stable but old software (kernel and packages), clean UI, huge community. But it’s harder to use, since you have to make a few more manual steps to leave it at where Fedora comes as default.
Fedora will always have a place as long as Red Hat stops shitting on it.
I don’t mind the old kernel, packages, etc. However, one of my biggest problems with debain so far is that SELinux isn’t installed by default… I’ve installed and enabled it but it doesn’t seem to let me SSH in. I’m still troubleshooting but its annoying to have to fight with it.
I’d love to continue to use Fedora but I have no faith in RedHat. They don’t give a shit about their community anymore, including Fedora, so I believe its just a matter of time before that’s dead too.
Fedora will probably get forked by the companies supporting enterprise Linux.
I am even more concerned about GNOME, since that will affect the majority of Linux distros or spins.
NSA SELinux is hard to configure/use. There was this exploit https://github.com/stealth/troubleshooter which some even called a backdoor rather than a vulnerability.
Do not trust anything that comes from a 3 letter government agency
So what should I use instead? Nothing?
I guess maybe docker does isolation so I could run all my apps in there.
I think Ubuntu has apparmour which they made themselves. Maybe look into that?
Fedora has been the “Linux if you want to use it for realsies” distro for me, while Ubuntu has become the “Linux if your grandma still wants to use her old laptop” distro.
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Leap it is :)
Welp… Gnome will lost many of their contributor/maintainer… Well, at least KDE folks is backed by Novell(SUSE) and XFCE is purely maintained by community already. It seems Linux desktop is still safe. lol
But this was it’s year!
SUSE was an independent company before, during, and after its 5 years under Novell. That’s a weird attribution to Novell when SUSE has always been the contributing company to Linux.
Oh, sorry… I thought they are one from the start… thx for correcting me.
Corpo shills were never on the team pleb… just so happened it was good for them to do something that benefited FOSS. Now that is over, it seems.
And that’s alright. We got some stuff out of it that we wouldn’t have gotten otherwise.
power-profiles-daemon is now archived? Dammit, that was a big one for Fedora.
It was introduced as the default power manager on Ubuntu 22.04 as well. 🤔
why did you link to a kbin view of another post right here on !linux@lemmy.ml ?
It happened before (on reddit), it will happen again (on Lemmy).
So say we all.
I am a little concerned to step in front of the hate machine here but this feels like a continued move away from app dev to more infrastructural stuff as previously announced by them. If so, I am all for it as not everybody is going to use Rhythmbox or LibreOffice but we can all use HDR and other core tech that Red Hat will develop instead. They are one of the few Linux companies that can fund these large, technical projects. Having them working on apps feels like a waste of their engineering potential.
Well, The Enterprise Linux war is just getting better and better!
You see contributing to Rhythmbox or not as part of the “Enterprise Linux war”?
I don’t understand :P
There is no Way this is going to improve anything Red Hat’s side