• JasSmith@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Because I support free speech. That means protecting speech I disagree with. If we only defend the speech we like, we no longer have a democracy.

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      1 year ago

      I support free speech but this guy clearly is using his speech to start violence and I don’t have to pretend to be too dumb to notice that.

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        1 year ago

        What do you mean “clearly… using his speech to start violence”? The only people starting violence are the people starting violence. There’s no restriction on free speech for hurt feelings. If we only allowed people to practise free speech when it could never offend anyone else, we’d all be silent all the time. The entire premise of the concept is that we can express ourselves when it offends others. That’s the whole point. Free speech arose as a central pillar of reason, science, and democracy during the Enlightenment when the Church would hang people for claiming the Earth wasn’t the centre of the universe. Can you see why it’s important that we allow people to dissent, disagree, and even antagonise one another?

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          1 year ago

          A cute sentiment but not one based in reality.

          I’m not allowed to visit Auschwitz dressed in Nazi uniform. I will have violence used against me.

          I can’t slowly drive around a small town in 'Bama with a gay pride flag and a I VOTED FOR HILARY bumper sticker. I will have violence used against me.

          I can’t enjoy a Cider at the Cider House wearing my Make America Great Again hat. I will have violence used against me.

          In each instance I’m not hurting anyone, I’m just making those around me uncomfortable and anxious with my (to them) questionable views. Yet everyone can clearly see I’m looking for trouble, that the ‘speech’ has the unsaid addition of ‘I want to hurt you when I’m powerful enough’.

          It’s easier to police the one person doing the antagonizing than it is to police the millions of people from the demographic they’re targeting, it’s inevitable that a few loons will take matters into their own hands.

          • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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            1 year ago

            There you go again with weak arguments that don’t compare to this.

            Let’s try a different track: I’m asking you to to go to all of those places and do all of those actions. It’ll be more productive than either (good-faith) getting the conversation distracted responding to explain why those aren’t good points or (bad-faith) derailing things just for the fun of being contrarian.