• deft@lemmy.wtf
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    6 hours ago

    Infrastructure to do this already exists it’s very easy for them to bail wall street out cause they’ve done it plenty of times before.

    Not saying it is okay but change isn’t exactly instant for all things.

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    16 hours ago

    Always amazes how prices on everything skyrocket instantly for no good reason, then never get reduced even after whatever sound bite allegedly caused them, is over.

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      15 hours ago

      Are we sure this is economically unreasonable? I think this happens in many financial systems; all you need is for a price increase in one place to cause cost increases at a delay (ie, fast inflation), eg: by workers getting paid more so they can afford the aforementioned price increase.

      (We should also note there are markets that don’t do this. Air travel is a notable example.)

      More interesting to me is price spikes when there’s no actual increase in costs. Several of those as of late.

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        Prices go up, governments react to help the industries that take the money but fail to lower the prices for consumers, it happens time & time again. Even if the benefit is passed onto consumers it never returns to the pre"whatever" price, it is always slightly higher. Can you think of a thing that got a price hike that then returned to the same price, or less?

        I’m sure it must happen but I’m not seeing it.

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    23 hours ago

    Patriot Act passed in six weeks.

    I wonder how many reps read it? Haha just kidding, nobody read it

    No minimum wage increase in 20 years.

    Universal Healthcare “debate” 40 years and counting

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    22 hours ago

    Revolutionary France basically ended feudalism in one delirious evening. Change can definitely happen fast. Anyone tells you otherwise is ignoring the march of History.

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      17 hours ago

      “Basically” is doing a lot of heavy lifting. You can’t ignore the years of buildup just because the climax itself happens quickly.

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        Who is ignoring it? Buildup happens all the time. Its happening now.

        Now by buildup of course im assuming you mean anger, frustration, dissatisfaction, and resentment. Because if you mean detailed planning then no. That’s absolutely not how it went. I literally mean one delirious night.

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          Now by buildup of course im assuming you mean anger, frustration, dissatisfaction, and resentment.

          As well as material suffering and broader radicalization. As bad as things are right now, people generally aren’t literally starving.

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    Building up is always slower than tearing down.

    This admin continually breaks the law, doesn’t get held accountable for it, and just doubles down…

    It’s exhausting.

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    The asset class has been pushing this change, increment by increment, piece by piece, for roughly 50 years.
    It hasn’t been fast.

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    16 hours ago

    Good luck getting America to “rise up” - most present-day Americans couldn’t revolt their way out of a Walmart.

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      The distance problem compounds the money problem and the time problem. Look at how relatively few people showed up for the Jan 6 insurrection, and that was out of some 60 million frothing cultist lunatics. Nearly every one I knew would have gone if they didn’t have bills, work, and the time to travel that far.

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        I srsly doubt that… look at the ominously promised “actions” in state capitals on Biden’s inauguration day. Attendance was pathetic - mostly in the teens or lower, even though in half the states the average driving distance to the capital is under 100 miles. I think what happened was all the fed-up fist-shaking magatards who’d “had enough” saw the Jan 6 loonies being arrested and facing consequences for their actions, so they hunkered down at home and yelled at their TVs. That’s about the most you can expect from the angry right wing at large. Now, contrast that with the BLM movement - marches went on week after week in city after city, all that summer, in spite of arrests, beatdowns, and even some deaths. The difference between the two is genuine commitment.

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    The people saying it in good faith mean it takes time to build a coalition to actually get change through despite the powers that be fighting hard against it

    The people saying it in bad faith are the powerful people making it take a long time

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      22 hours ago

      No. There is a third group. The group that says fighting against the powers that be is a lot easier if you take them all and put them up against a wall.

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        Which leads to the second problem: who should we put up against the wall? The oligarchs aren’t accessible to you…the nice house in the nice part of town is just the local doctor.

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    22 hours ago

    Cheap. Fast. Good.

    You can only have 2 of those at any time.

    For a rich person cheap is never in the equation so for them everything is fast and good.

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    23 hours ago

    That’s not really change though. At least, not in America.

    In America that’s business as usual.