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    9 months ago

    I think it’s nicer if there are more in the lesser owning class, so that anyone can reach there if they work hard, which is not the case today.

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        9 months ago

        I mean, if you view them as owners, yes, and that’s also the reality. But I want to argue there need to be good leaders.

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          9 months ago

          What does good leadership have to do with the owning class?

          Are you suggesting that by virtue of owning things they are good leaders?

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            9 months ago

            No.

            Anyone who controls said necessities but at least employs or otherwise benefits people of the working class.

            There are overlaps, but I’m tired of explaining nuances in this thread. I didn’t even write the owning class is good leaders. I instead mean that I wish what OP labeled as the owning class gets replaced with good leaders.

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          9 months ago

          I don’t even think you need leaders at all, either. Decisions can be made by a collective, without necessitating a representative.

          But, either way, how do you incentive “good” Capitalists? To become a Capitalist is to become an exploiter.

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            9 months ago

            I’m out. Good luck with your view.

            Edit: out because I don’t see a sign you’re ready to accept reality.

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      anyone can reach there if they work hard

      The rewards tend not to be for hard work, but for clever exploitation and excess cruelty.

      If you can successfully commit/facilitate a bunch of crimes (particularly, but not exclusively, white collar crimes) then you can break into the petite bourgeoisie. Florida’s Rick Scott, a guy who made a fortune scamming Medicare is a great example. The WWE’s Vince McMahon, a guy who encouraged his rooster of steroid abusing thugs by offering them the opportunity to rape his female staff members, is another.

      If you can stomach the grisly work of denying dying children their insurance claims or evicting elderly residents illegally foreclosed on during the 2008 housing crash or overseeing the butchery in Iraq/Afghanistan during the Bush Era or the torture prison in Guantanamo Bay (another Florida favorite, Ron DeSantis, broke out as a conservative darling after his tenure writing legal briefs that justified waterboarding and sexual abuse of terrorism suspects), then you can get a leg up.

      Plenty of these professions are functionally quite easy and the quality of the work is incidental to the reliability with which you adhere to the company/party line. The real pay out is in cultivating friends higher up the ladder and proving yourself a loyal little footsoldier, not in proving you can march the farthest or carry the heaviest loads.

      If anything, jobs that consist of shitty drudge-work tend to be the worst paying and are the least reliable for promotion. The pimp makes far more than the prostitute and has to do none of the dirty work.