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“we’ve waited too long to open the aperture on the solution sets in terms of what we need, as a society, to start reducing emissions,” Woods told Fortune
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The time for guillotines started years ago and is long overdue
That’s a really poor suggestion.
The guillotine was invented as a fast, efficient, humane method of execution. It was meant to take the human factor out of it for a clean, repeatable result.
The device you want is called a wood chipper.
I feel like the guillotine is meant as a symbol. I am also not gonna cannibalize these fucks, but I will tell you to eat them still.
That’s not very carbon neutral…
Could hand-crank it.
Well that just sounds like too much work.
Solar powered?
I don’t know I like the idea of a union gig job of cranking the handle on the wood chipper and going on mandatory lunch break halfway through one of these CEOs
They do in fact make electric wood chippers!
The device you want is called a wood chipper.
A particularly slow and unsharpened one, though.
Feet first.
And doused in pure capsaicin.
And after having had a branch of that tree that makes you want to kill yourself rectally inserted.
The question is, where do we point the wood chipper?
it’s a tragedy that desperate people would rather go after a school or church than after these fuckers.
That’s what I don’t get. If I’m determined to off myself, why not take someone with me that would make the world a better place to be without? I definitely have a name at the top of my list, but since I’m not suicidal, it just remains a fantasy.
I hope this post doesn’t get me added to any lists myself. I’m talking in hypotheticals here.
If this was reddit, it may have. But this isnt reddit.
If its too late then it’s time for retaliation against those who put us in this mess in the first place.
This guy belongs in jail.
My first thought was this Onion article.
https://www.theonion.com/last-ditch-climate-change-report-provides-locations-of-1835244382
The guy belongs drawn and quartered
Nah, I think he’ll have lots of fun in a 2x2 jail cell with unhealthy doses of CO2 and CO for the rest of his life.
Until he gets Epstein’d to a private island
Far be it from me to tell a Lemmy mob not to eat an oil exec, but wow that’s not even close to what the article says.
“So we’ve got to find a way to get the cost down to grow the utility of the solution, and make it more available and more affordable so that you can begin the [clean energy] transition.”
As per the article, this exec is saying the exact opposite of “it’s too late to transition to clean energy so we might as well not bother.” He’s saying “it’s taking too long because it’s too expensive, so we need to focus on making it cheaper so we can get there faster.”
Is he lying about wanting to hasten the transition to clean energy? Maybe.
Are there other reasons that he is a fiend that must be eaten by the working class? Likely. Article hints at some of them.
But wow this take is off base. These guys do a good enough job making themselves look bad, we don’t have to also make stuff up.
I appreciate you doing the work to add more context for folks who didn’t read the article (myself included 😅)
Lol, thanks. Sometimes I’m the one skimming the comments and skipping the article, so I’m glad I cold be helpful this time. I was expecting to get downvoted to hell based on the rest of the comments, but I’m happy to see that the response has been mostly positive.
I mean he also blames the people using electricity and says they need to pay more to cover the carbon offset costs which sounds a lot like he’s looking for an excuse to raise prices and push governmental fees on consumers more directly in this same speech.
I read through the article and think him saying it’s too late is like the barely visible take when he’s flashing a neon sign of “I’m not cutting down production and you fuckers are gonna pay for it!” And blaming governments for not wanting to pay for company infrastructure changes is hilarious when they lobby to make it so there is no more government insight anywhere else but covering the costs they don’t want to pay.
He’s definitely on the list but yeah title and thing OP tried to pull from this is so not the worst part of it.
Yeah, exactly-- There’s plenty of oil exec bullshit right there in the article, but I was surprised to learn that he was actually talking about clean energy as an important thing to hurry toward, and investing large sums in carbon capture and stuff. A far cry from cartoonish climate denialism and trying to stop decarbonization.
I saw another post on the same article that had a title like “oil exec tells the public that it’s their responsibility to foot the bill for clean energy…” And while I think that’s lacking a little nuance, it’s at least one area (of several!) that represents an actual claim that deserves criticism.
He’s saying “it’s taking too long because it’s too expensive, so we need to focus on making it cheaper so we can get there faster.”
Which is a lie and a bogus statement. They want it to be cheaper so they can get more profits, as usual.
Is it? Solar, for example, is getting cheaper, and as it gets cheaper, more people adopt it, which broadens its impact. Electric cars were prohibitively expensive until companies put R&D money into building cars that people could afford, and now they’re starting to gain traction.
Not to say that companies producing solar cells and EVs aren’t also trying to profit… But both things can be true.
The fact electric cars exist to begin with is an abomination. Cars don’t need to exist at all.
Electric bikes and busses then. Same story.
This kinda lines up with propaganda I’ve been seeing the past couple years (from the likes of Peter Theil and Alex Epstein). They argue that we should be extracting and using fossil fuels as fast as possible. The (stupid, fucked up, wishful thinking) idea is that cheap energy drives human development and technological solutions to climate change.
Yeah… And I mean, that’s correct in a sense-- Cheap energy is good. It’s just not the only factor.
Like cheap food is great too, but you might end up in a bad place if your nutrition strategy is just “spend as little as possible.”
It’s taking too long because the fossil fuel industry is heavily subsidized creating the appearance of a stronger cost advantage for fossil fuels than actually exists, which is the kind of bullshit Exxon-Mobil CEO is responsible for.
“So we’ve got to find a way to get the cost down to grow the utility of the solution”
As if they don’t have a significant sum of all the worlds money. If its too expensive they should be eating all the cost, since they are the ones that put us in this mess, knowingly. They shouldn’t be complaining that it costs too much. Maybe instead of wasting all that money lobbying against climate science, they could have put all that money into decarb and renewables. We are lightyears behind where we could be and why? Because they lied about what they knew and had to keep lying about it and maintaining the narrative that there is no problem. Can’t get anybody to believe that anymore so now they say they need more time and money and its just too hard guys. No excuses for these vampires.
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Is it playing devil’s advocate to say that criticism should at least be true?
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Awh I’ve never been called a class traitor or a corporate boot licker before 😂 good to know that we’re willing to throw the truth under the bus, I always thought that being better than our enemies was the way but I see now that petty things like the truth are the real enemy. Thank you for opening my eyes.
Pay no attention to that troll, friend. I’m all for makeing CEOs/billionaires accountable. But what you did was good, and you don’t need to explain yourself to a troll.
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Just shut the fuck up. That’s not even the point. OP was simply clarifying what the article said, without outside editorializing.
I am in favor of making CEOs accountable, but all you’re doing is staining the cause with an irrelevant conversation. Wait… is that your goal? Are you a fucking Russian disinformation agent or something?
Go back to reddit.
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What the fuck, what kind of bullshit is this? This is not how a sane discourse works. This is the worst case of ad-hominem/strawman I’ve seen in a while.
“Yes, OP, you’re right that the CEO didn’t say that. But do we need the truth prevailing here? He’s a CEO!!! Why are you defending him?!”
What a load of bullshit.
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I definitely just ignore or block “durr prove it” types.
Nah I’m not going to waste my time and energy compiling sources and whatnot just for some asshole to go “nuh uh fake news LuLuLuLuLuLz”
You don’t do that for the poster. You do that for other readers.
When someone makes a completely stupid comment, like “Drink bleach to kill viruses,” I won’t go and reply “no you wrong!” I’ll reply “For anyone reading, that’s a dangerous advice and here’s why [citations].” I don’t care if the poster then replies with “nuh uh, fake nooz.”
(I didn’t downvote you, by the way.)
We’ve already blown a tire, so we might as well slash the other four, right? 🙄
Getting the spare as well just to be certain?
Lol you caught that. I no count so good.
I no count so good.
A lot of newer cars don’t have spares, which could be seen as another grim element to the metaphor.
We’ve…
…said the Exon exec after they slashed your tire.
even the spare one?
What a cunt. Is it too early to waterboard him with frack juice?
it’s too late, guillotine instead
Hey hey, slow down. There’s a healthy middle ground. We could waterboard him whilst he’s in the guillotine, then when he’s begging for air we release him head first
It’s to early to waterboard him, but it’s not too late to hang him
Man if there’s one person who’s opinion I respect on climate change, it’s definitely the CEO of Exxon-Mobil.
Guess it’s never too late to put these fuckers up against a wall
… with his opinion which is of no consequence at all.
Edit: no Radiohead fans here?
It makes it clear that a lot of the doomerism we’ve been seeing encouraged by oil industry PR firms is in fact coming from the top.
Honestly it shows that idiots will jump to whatever makes them feel tough, all these people calling for the ceo to be killed because they think he said the same tough guy thing that I’ve seen posted all over the place probably by many of the same people calling for his death…
Meanwhile he’s actually just said the same thing that all the experts in the field have been saying for a long time about how important it is to use economic forces to accelerate transition.
It would be so nice if we actually took the time to make informed opinions so we can work towards actual solutions. Yes it’s hard but if you actually care then that means putting in the work.
ambition makes him look pretty ugly
I know the first mother fucker I’m eating.
Seriously, this guy is looking awfully tasty.
I’m just gonna use him to fuel the fire to cook real food tbh
I’ll polish up the guillotine!
“too early, too late, whatever as long as now is not the right time that’s all I care about”
So the implication here is that we should just continue to die? Lmao these fucks.
This has been “Climate Change Denial 2.0” for years now. Realistically, it’s nothing more than a neoliberal dogwhistle to signal “I’m on board for killing everyone if it’s profitable”.
Seize the assets of the shareholders and stop the oil pumps.
Not the shareholders! 😱
/s
We’re all shareholders by a certain age. Do you contribute to a 401k? If so, you’re a shareholder. The CEOs and corporate board members use shareholder *demands" as a convenient excuse to justify their own sociopathic insatiable need for more money they’ll never spend.
Reminds me of that saying choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it. Their incentive is to do the job just good enough and with the least amount of effort. The shareholders incentive here is make money. So we need to make Fossil fuel business illegal. The shareholders still want to make money. They’ll find an alternative way to do so. OH HEY LOOK! No longer reliant on fossil fuels?
shock the industry so hard the stonks guys just go elsewhere.
Ha! I just saw a post from someone here on Lemmy last week saying this is what they’ll do.
There are actually books already written about how the PR folks the executives hire have been doing this for several years.
Denied, Delayed, Disinformed successfully!
CEO, “Now, board of directors, how much bonus are you paying me.”
If anyone wanted a proof that environmental pessimism is only helping the oligarchs, there you fucking go
