Yup. In one fell swoop Bibi and the IDF shut down every major food/aid program in Gaza, effectively guaranteeing Gazan starvation. And all for the price of 7 non-Israeli lives.
I think just like with USS Liberty the “screwup” was leaving survivors. I think their intent was to kill everyone then blame Hamas, not letting any journos get too close to the burnt out vehicles.
Which is crazy because I can’t see how creating a famine is gonna play well for anyone in Israel. I think using starvation as a weapon is by far the most powerful driver behind the world sentiment moving away from supporting Israel in this conflict. It’s an argument that can’t be waved away as “we made a mistake.”
I think they’re trying to kill a large fraction and force the rest across the border to Egypt, so they can take Gaza for themselves. They feel a lot of time pressure so they’re doing whatever they can do to get the situation on the ground as bad as possible as quickly as possible. They want to go in and shoot up Rafah but they’re under too much pressure to slow-walk that. So cutting off all aid and letting famine “do the job” for them makes sense from their twisted worldview.
Alright, but do you see this playing out positively for them longer term? Unless we assume there would be no consequences for Israel. Also I think there are probably going to be bad consequences internally assuming a non-insignificant part of the Israelis come to terms with the atrocity committed in their name. I think that would create a struggle between the fascists and the rest that can go either way. A further descent into fascist militant Zionism along with repression of people and democracy. Or a rejection of the elements and culture that lead to this atrocity.
Alright, but do you see this playing out positively for them longer term?
Israel hasn’t been thinking of the longer term at least ever since Palestinians got internet access. That was the beginning of the end for their control over Western public opinion, (edit) and you’d have expected them to learn but nope.
Also I think there are probably going to be bad consequences internally assuming a non-insignificant part of the Israelis come to terms with the atrocity committed in their name.
Don’t expect too much. To most Jewish Israelis (which are, let’s face it, the only ones that matter) Palestinians are subhuman barbarians whose only purpose in life is to be killed for Lebensraum. And their share of the total population is going up, not down. So yeah, don’t expect any soul searching in that department.
More evidence to support the facts that IDF is indiscriminately attacking civilians and aid workers in Gaza.
Our governments (and partners) response makes me feel like an accomplice to murder.
But don’t get me wrong, fuck Hamas. But the ends no longer justify the means or however it goes.
This particular attack wasn’t indiscriminate; they were specifically targeted
Yup. In one fell swoop Bibi and the IDF shut down every major food/aid program in Gaza, effectively guaranteeing Gazan starvation. And all for the price of 7 non-Israeli lives.
It was planned.
I think just like with USS Liberty the “screwup” was leaving survivors. I think their intent was to kill everyone then blame Hamas, not letting any journos get too close to the burnt out vehicles.
Which is crazy because I can’t see how creating a famine is gonna play well for anyone in Israel. I think using starvation as a weapon is by far the most powerful driver behind the world sentiment moving away from supporting Israel in this conflict. It’s an argument that can’t be waved away as “we made a mistake.”
I think they’re trying to kill a large fraction and force the rest across the border to Egypt, so they can take Gaza for themselves. They feel a lot of time pressure so they’re doing whatever they can do to get the situation on the ground as bad as possible as quickly as possible. They want to go in and shoot up Rafah but they’re under too much pressure to slow-walk that. So cutting off all aid and letting famine “do the job” for them makes sense from their twisted worldview.
Alright, but do you see this playing out positively for them longer term? Unless we assume there would be no consequences for Israel. Also I think there are probably going to be bad consequences internally assuming a non-insignificant part of the Israelis come to terms with the atrocity committed in their name. I think that would create a struggle between the fascists and the rest that can go either way. A further descent into fascist militant Zionism along with repression of people and democracy. Or a rejection of the elements and culture that lead to this atrocity.
Israel hasn’t been thinking of the longer term at least ever since Palestinians got internet access. That was the beginning of the end for their control over Western public opinion, (edit) and you’d have expected them to learn but nope.
Don’t expect too much. To most Jewish Israelis (which are, let’s face it, the only ones that matter) Palestinians are subhuman barbarians whose only purpose in life is to be killed for Lebensraum. And their share of the total population is going up, not down. So yeah, don’t expect any soul searching in that department.