That is far far from my “focus”. I don’t mind criticism. I don’t even mind people who openly state reasons to not like me or what I am doing. My problem is what others described: downvoting without actionable feedback.
I am more used to the Hacker News style of moderation, where the mods are used to take a first course of action to (politely) point out what was “wrong” with someone’s action and ask them to stop their behavior. Only unabashed repeat offenders get banned. My “calling out” was an attempt to do that, after a private message went unanswered.
Yeah, I am still of the opinion that downvotes can be an important source of signal, but given the prevalence of “I don’t like this, therefore I don’t like you, here is my downvote”, I’m starting to reconsider it.
In my ideal world we would get rid of up/downvotes and just use emoji reactions as a multi-dimensional form of evaluating content quality.
I downvoted you then for the same reason that I am downvoting you now: because you are more interested in making personal attacks and calling names than in a productive conversation.
Also, please re-read my comment. There is an experienced moderator from a reasonably large instance saying “sometimes all that is needed is to call out bad behavior and ask people to stop it”. If you don’t agree with it, fine, but don’t go around saying that only someone “emotionally unstable” would act this way.
In the spirit of “just ask people to stop”, I’ll say this: Can you please drop the needless aggression and name-calling? Let’s try to assume good intentions first?
I think what you do is bad behaviour, worse than just somebody downvoting something. I have told you when i first saw you do this, but you’re still doing it.
I have no recollection of interacting with you until yesterday, and a quick search is showing you only calling me creepy in a response to someone else because I called out two other commenters who, yes, were pretty much downvoting everything in a discussion about moving away from lemmy.ml.
Then and now, you are responding to something you don’t like and you are resorting to make it personal (calling names, making value judgments) instead of making it about the behavior (“hey, why are you doing X? Can you please stop it?”). Do you understand the difference?
I adressed your behaviour, f.e. your attempt to create a false impression of their downvote behaviour to make yourself look more reasonable, before i called you a dumbass. But i get it, you’d rather let that one slide.
I’ll definitely keep chiming when you pull this in the future, as i don’t think your self righteous ass will take the ratio hint.
There is no attempt at anything. The serial downvotes without any further participation is there in all types of topics. Not just with me.
I have sent a DM, four months ago, asking why. No response.
He finally answered now with an explanation. It’s not what I would call the best reason for downvoting someone, and it certainly falls in the case of “not helpful for people posting to find out what is wrong with the submission”, but at least it was a response.
Life goes on. You, apparently, did not. Now, instead of worrying about empty threats and your feeble attempt at intimidation, I will go enjoy my summer and continue working on my things.
That is far far from my “focus”. I don’t mind criticism. I don’t even mind people who openly state reasons to not like me or what I am doing. My problem is what others described: downvoting without actionable feedback.
I am more used to the Hacker News style of moderation, where the mods are used to take a first course of action to (politely) point out what was “wrong” with someone’s action and ask them to stop their behavior. Only unabashed repeat offenders get banned. My “calling out” was an attempt to do that, after a private message went unanswered.
This is exactly why I prefer instances that have downvotes disabled.
Yeah, I am still of the opinion that downvotes can be an important source of signal, but given the prevalence of “I don’t like this, therefore I don’t like you, here is my downvote”, I’m starting to reconsider it.
In my ideal world we would get rid of up/downvotes and just use emoji reactions as a multi-dimensional form of evaluating content quality.
FYI you’re not a mod here, thank god.
I assume you’d also disagree with this? https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/112895701054913465
Oh you downvoted me because you think you’d be a great mod 😂
But you are not a mod here, thank god.
Making it seem like the person was following you around to harass downvote you, fucking dumbass.
You might disagree with him, but no need for insults.
I think an obvious insult is nicer than trying to smear the person downvoting as some notorious downvoter with pretend “admin knowledge”.
I guess you’re a fan of this because they also called out your downvoters before. You are the good guys and the downvoters are the bad guys.
I downvoted you then for the same reason that I am downvoting you now: because you are more interested in making personal attacks and calling names than in a productive conversation.
Also, please re-read my comment. There is an experienced moderator from a reasonably large instance saying “sometimes all that is needed is to call out bad behavior and ask people to stop it”. If you don’t agree with it, fine, but don’t go around saying that only someone “emotionally unstable” would act this way.
In the spirit of “just ask people to stop”, I’ll say this: Can you please drop the needless aggression and name-calling? Let’s try to assume good intentions first?
I think what you do is bad behaviour, worse than just somebody downvoting something. I have told you when i first saw you do this, but you’re still doing it.
What i say about you is what i think about you.
I have no recollection of interacting with you until yesterday, and a quick search is showing you only calling me creepy in a response to someone else because I called out two other commenters who, yes, were pretty much downvoting everything in a discussion about moving away from lemmy.ml.
Then and now, you are responding to something you don’t like and you are resorting to make it personal (calling names, making value judgments) instead of making it about the behavior (“hey, why are you doing X? Can you please stop it?”). Do you understand the difference?
I adressed your behaviour, f.e. your attempt to create a false impression of their downvote behaviour to make yourself look more reasonable, before i called you a dumbass. But i get it, you’d rather let that one slide.
I’ll definitely keep chiming when you pull this in the future, as i don’t think your self righteous ass will take the ratio hint.
There is no attempt at anything. The serial downvotes without any further participation is there in all types of topics. Not just with me.
I have sent a DM, four months ago, asking why. No response.
He finally answered now with an explanation. It’s not what I would call the best reason for downvoting someone, and it certainly falls in the case of “not helpful for people posting to find out what is wrong with the submission”, but at least it was a response.
Life goes on. You, apparently, did not. Now, instead of worrying about empty threats and your feeble attempt at intimidation, I will go enjoy my summer and continue working on my things.
Have a good one.